How do you organize all of your IPs without something to document them?

Josh Luthman
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On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:

>  We kind of spiraled out on that didn't we?
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> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
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> On 3/9/2015 10:29 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
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>  Let the guy do his routed network.  A billing system is not a
> prerequisite.  Although if he has something in mind like Powercode for the
> future, it might be good to take that into consideration since it has a
> network element (BMU) that has to go somewhere.
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>  *From:* Bill Prince <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 12:17 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged network
> torouted. (More Info)
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>  Free for 30 days, or free for up to 30 "sensors".  The way I use sensors
> on our network, that will cover about 2 devices.
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> http://www.paessler.com/prtg/download
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> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
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> On 3/9/2015 10:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
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>  PRTG is free and will monitor all your stuff if you fire up an internal
> subnet for it.
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>  *From:* Brandon Yuchasz <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 10:43 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged network
> torouted. (More Info)
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> Alright so I have always said I am not proud too admit when I am
> uneducated in an area if it means learning something I need to know. So as
> embarrassing as it is Ill open to robe.
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> All  APs are Cambium FSK and we are now deploying the PMP450 as well.
> Backhauls are a mix of companies but we are looking to try and standardize,
> Cambium, and Ligowave are the most used.
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> Ill just use one site because they are all evolved in a similar way. But
> we have several different sites that are all very similar.
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> The site I would like to do first is Tower one, 5 FSK APs (PMP450 coming
> soon) This site has a shed no heat and my equipment at the base is secured
> in a locking large steel box. Think of a truck tool box. Backhauled to
> Tower 2 through Ligowave and tower two has 5 FSK APs and one PMP450. This
> site is really remote no roads and its all tied together in a weatherproof
> box.
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> So no managed switches, Single IP and DHCP. Never went then way of
> NAT.
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> We have no real monitoring for customers date use, we limit up and down
> speeds at the SM. We don’t shape no caps you get the idea. So existing
> equipment is useless for this process. Our customers are quite happy with
> the services but I am blind. I will most likely double my size in the next
> 6 months and I can’t keep doing it this way.
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> Brandon
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> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
> Behalf Of *Jeremy
> *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 10:51 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged
> networktorouted.
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> Also, depending on your monitoring system, you should be able to track CPE
> and AP bandwidth as is.
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> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:48 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
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> The availability of inexpensive Mikrotik routers made this much less of an
> issue than it used to be.  Even at micropops that I bridge, I put a small
> Mikrotik like a 450G or a 2011 there as a managed switch.  That way it can
> be converted to routed, often without a truck roll.
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> One question is how you assign IP addresses to customers.  Static with NAT
> in CPE?  DHCP?  PPPoE?  Do you NAT multiple customers to one public IP?
> This may determine which approach is easiest to migrate to.  Router at each
> tower with block of public IPs?  VLANs to central site with big central
> router?
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> *From:* That One Guy <[email protected]>
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> *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 10:23 AM
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> *To:* [email protected]
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> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged
> networktorouted.
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> not to hijack you, but there are some who maintain a fully bridged network
> and use VLAN instead of routing, this I am curious about, it may be a cost
> effective solution for you as well.
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> I started our migration 4ish years ago and had the budget cut out from
> under me with only half the routers deployed, let me tell you, a 50/50
> network sucks a great deal to manage. whatever you do, make sure you have
> all your routers on your desk before you begin
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> On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
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>   Everyone seems to have lived through this evolution at some point.
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> A bridged WISP is asking for trouble.
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> How many APs and how many sites?  Are the switches at the sites capable of
> supporting VLANs?  That is where I would start.  Either that or replacing
> the switches with routers.  Personally, one router with VLANS to each AP
> via managed switches would be my preference.
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> *From:* Brandon Yuchasz <[email protected]>
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> *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2015 9:10 AM
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> *To:* [email protected]
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> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Looking for help converting from a bridged network
> torouted.
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> I am looking for help converting our network from bridged to routed. This
> is something I don’t have a lot of background in but I also don’t want to
> end the process having a system I can’t fix so I will need someone that is
> willing to both do the work and teach me at the same time. Depending on how
> the process works in regards to time I am hoping to spend an hour a week
> working over the phone and through a remote desktop app.
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> My main reasons for working on this now are I need to see bandwidth use
> per SM, per AP, and have better ways of tracking both long term. We are
> just to blind right now and starting to really grow again I need to get it
> under control now before we get to large.
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> I am open to suggestions on routers but already had purchased microtik and
> butches scripts which after trying and failing to get it to work never
> implemented.
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> Contact me off list [email protected] if you can help.
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> Thanks,
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> Brandon Yuchasz
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> GogebicRange.net
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> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
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