Put your layer 7 rules at the very end of your list. Use them to create 
connection marks that they apply higher in the list. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Glen Waldrop" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 2:25:37 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Light Reading 

 
The flip side of this, I've experimented with Netflix on the PS3 and PC quite a 
bit on my home router. As a result, I've set L7 tagging and QoS rules to keep 
Netflix from going nuts while preventing buffering on my edge router. 

My config essentially guaranteed 3Mbps for streaming video, but limited it to a 
max of 3Mbps. Problem I run into is I need a hotter router. 

Depending on the interpretation, my QoS rule that improves streaming video 
could be construed as "throttling". 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: Patrick Leary 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:34 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Light Reading 



Not so sure about that Jon. Pushing it down to merely SD is not blocking or 
otherwise rendering the traffic "unusable." SD is perfectly usable, though 
consumer might not find it desirable. I think a wireless provider can make an 
effective case for forcing streaming to SD under the "management" clauses of 
this order, because it is an action taken to preserve the ability of all 
subscribers to have useable connections. 

        
Patrick Leary 
M 727.501.3735 

        
        



From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Auer 
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 12:29 PM 
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Light Reading 


"The ban on throttling is necessary both to fulfill the reasonable expectations 
of a customer who signs up for a broadband service that promises access to all 
of the lawful Internet, and to avoid gamesmanship designed to avoid the 
no-blocking rule by, for example, rendering an application effectively, but not 
technically, unusable. It prohibits the degrading of Internet traffic based on 
source, destination, or content." 



Seems pretty clear. 



I have a competitor that was using a Procera device to degrade Youtube by 
throttling streams back to SD (though it seems like they stopped sometime since 
I last checked the Youtube VQR). Seems like that wouldn't be considered 
reasonable network management under this. 



On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Bill Prince < [email protected] > wrote: 

Not sure why. 

If you talk to the man on the street, they're going to interpret this as 
"everyone should get 1 Gbps to every device in the nation", and that the cost 
should be $9.99 per month. 

That's not the reality. So in reality, ISPs will continue to do bandwidth 
management to accommodate what is actually possible on a case-by-case basis. 

bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 

On 3/12/2015 9:12 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: 
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Procera is gonna hate this I think. 






From: Chuck McCown 

Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:59 AM 

To: [email protected] 

Subject: [AFMUG] Light Reading 










Something to do this weekend. 







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