I may have to rethink my QoS set up. If I set my L7 rules behind my general traffic rules they don't work.
----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Hammett To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 2:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Light Reading Put your layer 7 rules at the very end of your list. Use them to create connection marks that they apply higher in the list. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: "Glen Waldrop" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 2:25:37 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Light Reading The flip side of this, I've experimented with Netflix on the PS3 and PC quite a bit on my home router. As a result, I've set L7 tagging and QoS rules to keep Netflix from going nuts while preventing buffering on my edge router. My config essentially guaranteed 3Mbps for streaming video, but limited it to a max of 3Mbps. Problem I run into is I need a hotter router. Depending on the interpretation, my QoS rule that improves streaming video could be construed as "throttling". ----- Original Message ----- From: Patrick Leary To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Light Reading Not so sure about that Jon. Pushing it down to merely SD is not blocking or otherwise rendering the traffic "unusable." SD is perfectly usable, though consumer might not find it desirable. I think a wireless provider can make an effective case for forcing streaming to SD under the "management" clauses of this order, because it is an action taken to preserve the ability of all subscribers to have useable connections. Patrick Leary M 727.501.3735 From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jon Auer Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 12:29 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Light Reading "The ban on throttling is necessary both to fulfill the reasonable expectations of a customer who signs up for a broadband service that promises access to all of the lawful Internet, and to avoid gamesmanship designed to avoid the no-blocking rule by, for example, rendering an application effectively, but not technically, unusable. It prohibits the degrading of Internet traffic based on source, destination, or content." Seems pretty clear. I have a competitor that was using a Procera device to degrade Youtube by throttling streams back to SD (though it seems like they stopped sometime since I last checked the Youtube VQR). Seems like that wouldn't be considered reasonable network management under this. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: Not sure why. If you talk to the man on the street, they're going to interpret this as "everyone should get 1 Gbps to every device in the nation", and that the cost should be $9.99 per month. That's not the reality. So in reality, ISPs will continue to do bandwidth management to accommodate what is actually possible on a case-by-case basis. bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 3/12/2015 9:12 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Procera is gonna hate this I think. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] Light Reading Something to do this weekend. ************************************************************************************ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. ************************************************************************************ ************************************************************************************ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. ************************************************************************************
