Once you've got two links, you have more efficiency than dynamic.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 10:31:14 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] quick Air Fiber 5X question If only every product synced together... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 12, 2015 11:27 PM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: Using sync promotes a far higher spectral efficiency than you'll ever get out of a dynamic mode. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 10:26:42 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] quick Air Fiber 5X question 3/4 want it, it looks like! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: <blockquote> FWIW, I don't consider it important at all. Should not be condoning non-sync uses. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com From: "Chuck Macenski" < ch...@macenski.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:36:08 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] quick Air Fiber 5X question Well...we have a lot on our plate right now, but, life is long. I will say that we generally add features when we perceive a broad market demand, not to simply say "me too". As they say, if you are following, the view is always the same :) Chuck On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Kurt Fankhauser < li...@wavelinc.com > wrote: <blockquote> Cambium PTP650 can run in dynamic mode. And I was hoping this product would be a PTP650 killer. Sent from my iPhone Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Mar 12, 2015, at 7:39 PM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > wrote: <blockquote> Well if it's dynamic it can go the other way! Following the demand. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 12, 2015 7:32 PM, "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)" < geo...@cbcast.com > wrote: <blockquote> Josh, I think you're missing something. If you do rings and a link goes down, more traffic starts going the other direction, or reverses completely. So IMO, 50/50 is fine because it's not full duplex and I don't want to have to flip a link from 75/25 to 25/75 (or whatever options there are). A link goes down, traffic changes and I do not want to take down yet another link to fix perhaps a temporary issue. OR cause a much larger permanent issue, e.g. config apply or reboot makes the radio(s) not come back up. And AFAIK, the AF5X isn't capable of FDD. It's not your regular airFiber with two radios, or separate Tx and Rx antennas, or whatever it is. On 3/12/2015 4:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: <blockquote> We're ISPs. Our backhauls don't really need any upstream other than the upstream needed to sustain downstream. Could you first get an idea on what the benefit would be? If it would be <5% additional bandwidth it doesn't make much sense. Sync isn't a big deal to me unless I replace ALL backhauls with af5x which just isn't a realistic possibility. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Chuck Macenski < ch...@macenski.com > wrote: <blockquote> Hi, There are no plans for airFiber dynamic framing at the moment. It could be done if you didn't care about having multiple units synced together (as the framing would be changing). I don't know how much more in one direction we could make this and meet DFS rules for those bands... Is there a need for this? Chuck On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > wrote: <blockquote> Will there be? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Chuck Macenski < ch...@macenski.com > wrote: <blockquote> Hi, No. Currently we support 50/50, 75/25, and 67/33 (either master to slave or slave to master). Chuck On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Kurt Fankhauser < li...@wavelinc.com > wrote: <blockquote> I'm talking half duplex, sorry. Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> If you're running them full dux, you don't need no steenking adaptive duty cycle... bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 3/12/2015 12:53 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: <blockquote> Does the airfiber 5X (or any other variation of AF) support adaptive duty cycle? Or am I locked down to 50/50 or 75/25 etc???? Kurt Fankhauser Wavelinc Communications P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 http://www.wavelinc.com tel. 419-562-6405 fax. 419-617-0110 </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>
