You can't 'stack' channels on top of each other with non-sync products (run the spectrum analysis). When you add sync, you can stack and overlap. If your going to venture into AirFiber, your already past the 'small potatoes' category IMO and you probably need to upgrade a good 2-3 links...
Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 12, 2015, at 11:36 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think it is more spectrally effiecient to run these radios in adaptive mode > and use a smaller channel width than running them in 50/50 and running wider > channels! Who the heck has backhauls running at symmetrical speeds anyway? > > Sync isn't for every application... > > > Kurt Fankhauser > Wavelinc Communications > P.O. Box 126 > Bucyrus, OH 44820 > http://www.wavelinc.com > tel. 419-562-6405 > fax. 419-617-0110 > >> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:27 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> Using sync promotes a far higher spectral efficiency than you'll ever get >> out of a dynamic mode. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 10:26:42 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] quick Air Fiber 5X question >> >> 3/4 want it, it looks like! >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> FWIW, I don't consider it important at all. Should not be condoning >>> non-sync uses. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> From: "Chuck Macenski" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 9:36:08 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] quick Air Fiber 5X question >>> >>> >>> Well...we have a lot on our plate right now, but, life is long. I will say >>> that we generally add features when we perceive a broad market demand, not >>> to simply say "me too". As they say, if you are following, the view is >>> always the same :) >>> >>> Chuck >>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> Cambium PTP650 can run in dynamic mode. And I was hoping this product >>>> would be a PTP650 killer. >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>> Wavelinc Communications >>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>> http://www.wavelinc.com >>>> tel. 419-562-6405 >>>> fax. 419-617-0110 >>>> >>>> On Mar 12, 2015, at 7:39 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well if it's dynamic it can go the other way! Following the demand. >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>>> On Mar 12, 2015 7:32 PM, "George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)" >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Josh, I think you're missing something. If you do rings and a link goes >>>>> down, more traffic starts going the other direction, or reverses >>>>> completely. So IMO, 50/50 is fine because it's not full duplex and I >>>>> don't want to have to flip a link from 75/25 to 25/75 (or whatever >>>>> options there are). A link goes down, traffic changes and I do not >>>>> want to take down yet another link to fix perhaps a temporary issue. OR >>>>> cause a much larger permanent issue, e.g. config apply or reboot makes >>>>> the radio(s) not come back up. >>>>> >>>>> And AFAIK, the AF5X isn't capable of FDD. It's not your regular airFiber >>>>> with two radios, or separate Tx and Rx antennas, or whatever it is. >>>>> >>>>> On 3/12/2015 4:17 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>> We're ISPs. Our backhauls don't really need any upstream other than the >>>>> upstream needed to sustain downstream. >>>>> >>>>> Could you first get an idea on what the benefit would be? If it would be >>>>> <5% additional bandwidth it doesn't make much sense. Sync isn't a big >>>>> deal to me unless I replace ALL backhauls with af5x which just isn't a >>>>> realistic possibility. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Chuck Macenski <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> There are no plans for airFiber dynamic framing at the moment. It could >>>>>> be done if you didn't care about having multiple units synced together >>>>>> (as the framing would be changing). I don't know how much more in one >>>>>> direction we could make this and meet DFS rules for those bands... Is >>>>>> there a need for this? >>>>>> >>>>>> Chuck >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Josh Luthman >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> Will there be? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Chuck Macenski <[email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No. Currently we support 50/50, 75/25, and 67/33 (either master to >>>>>>>> slave or slave to master). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Kurt Fankhauser <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> I'm talking half duplex, sorry. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>>>>> Wavelinc Communications >>>>>>>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>>>>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>>>>>>> http://www.wavelinc.com >>>>>>>>> tel. 419-562-6405 >>>>>>>>> fax. 419-617-0110 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> If you're running them full dux, you don't need no steenking >>>>>>>>>> adaptive duty cycle... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 3/12/2015 12:53 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Does the airfiber 5X (or any other variation of AF) support adaptive >>>>>>>>>> duty cycle? Or am I locked down to 50/50 or 75/25 etc???? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser >>>>>>>>>> Wavelinc Communications >>>>>>>>>> P.O. Box 126 >>>>>>>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820 >>>>>>>>>> http://www.wavelinc.com >>>>>>>>>> tel. 419-562-6405 >>>>>>>>>> fax. 419-617-0110 >
