I think that’s a fair assessment of the technology from last year….most AC 
implementations never thought they’d achieve MCS 9 regularly with a generation 
ago RFIC technologies and required RX sensitivities.

Now that RFIC implementations have evolved to try to actually improve this, 
we’re seeing it is far more attainable to hit MCS 8/9 quite regularly, 
especially in narrower channels.

But MU-MIMO and beamforming alone are big improvements even if you can’t get 
past MCS 7.

Beamforming delivers 3 dB extra “processed” gain on it’s own.

Cheers,

Jaime Fink • Mimosa<http://www.mimosa.co/> • CPO & Co-Founder

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From: Bill Prince
Reply-To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
Date: Friday, March 13, 2015 at 2:02 PM
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>"
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AC spec available in 2.4?

If the only way to gain more throughput in AC (over N) is to increase the 
channel size, then there is no significant gain in AC.


bp
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On 3/13/2015 1:42 PM, Vince West wrote:
To an extent. More range, more speed, beamforming.

But are you really gaining anything in the smaller channel sizes with AC in 
2.4Ghz? I don't know the standard really well aside from it's obvious gains. 
The main things, AFAIK, that are beneficial from AC are the increased speeds 
and beamforming. I understand where beamforming is important. And better range.

It would be interesting to know what can be gained from 802.11ac in 2.4Ghz but 
the main argument I have heard against it is that there isn't enough spectrum.

Vince West
Tower Hand
Technical Support
Shelby Broadband
148 Citizens Blvd
Simpsonville, KY 40067
Phone: 1-888-364-4232

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Chuck Hogg 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
There are chipsets and I believe that one of the manufacturers are going to do 
one.

Regards,
Chuck

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Paul McCall 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I get their explanation…. BUT… isn’t there some general efficiencies that .ac 
has over .n even on the same channel size?

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Vince West
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 4:27 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AC spec available in 2.4?

I can't attest to the accuracy, but I found this on the web a few years ago and 
saved it just for a question like this.

Why is 802.11ac 5Ghz 
only?<http://blogs.aerohive.com/blog/the-wi-fi-security-blog/why-is-80211ac-5-ghz-only>

Vince West
Tower Hand
Technical Support
Shelby Broadband
148 Citizens Blvd
Simpsonville, KY 40067
Phone: 1-888-364-4232<tel:1-888-364-4232>

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 4:17 PM, Gino Villarini 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Afaik 5ghz only



Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com<http://www.aeronetpr.com>
@aeronetpr



From: Paul McCall <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Reply-To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Friday, March 13, 2015 at 4:14 PM
To: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: [AFMUG] AC spec available in 2.4?

Is the 802.11ac spec only a 5 GHz spec or will we eventually see it in 2.4 Ghz?

Paul McCall, Pres.
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