All the ubnt stuff that does DFS does 5.1 (with v5.5.10), so Rocket,
NanoStation, Loco and NanoBridge.

I think the NanoBeams and AC stuff has all been out long enough that they
got it certified under the old rules originally... so that would be why no
UNII-1.

On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 3:44 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

>   On what products?  I have an existing Loco-Loco link from a customer’s
> barn to his house, I want to replace the barn end with a Rocket + 13 dBi
> omni and then go half a mile to pick up a neighbor.  If I can do it in 5.1,
> I really don’t need DFS.  It might even be a better solution.
>
> I should have some Locos on the shelf, I should upgrade one of them to
> 5.5.10 and see what frequencies show up in the GUI.
>
> Are there any of the Nanobeams that will operate in 5.1 with 5.5.10 FW?
>
>
>  *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 15, 2015 3:29 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobeam still no DFS?
>
>
> They opened 5.1 with 5.5.10.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 15, 2015 4:24 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>   Thanks for the clarification.
>>
>> So right now if I want to operate in U-NII-2 or 3, it’s NS5M Loco or
>> NanoBridge 25 as a client?
>>
>> Does Ubiquiti have anything that can use U-NII-1?  That would not require
>> DFS but would require meeting the new OOBE requirements.  I’m not clear why
>> they wouldn’t get this on the NanoBeams or at least the NanoBeam AC, being
>> new products wouldn’t they be going for the new OOBE rules anyway?  In
>> which case U-NII-1 should be straightforward.
>>
>> I’m a little unclear on whether DFS and OOBE requirements are equally
>> difficult in the rest of the world.  I thought the new FCC rules were just
>> catching up with the rest of the world.  But if this is not a problem
>> worldwide, is Ubiquiti basically becoming like Mikrotik and saying it’s not
>> worth the trouble meeting US requirements?  With 15.247 certification being
>> worthless to a manufacturer by June 2016, is this what manufacturers will
>> do, walk away from the US market and focus on the rest of the world?
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2015 11:09 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobeam still no DFS?
>>
>>
>> We carry NS5M Locos, NanoBridge 25, and PowerBeam 25.  We will drop the
>> Nanobridge 25 when DFS gets fixed but where we can use the Powerbeam, we
>> still do.  Mostly that is because we are still working off a large early
>> order.  I haven’t ordered any since.  The Locos go away when DFS is on the
>> NanoBeams and will be replaced with the 16’s.   There is almost no reason
>> to carry anything in between and it reduces the inventory in the truck.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 14, 2015 8:19 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nanobeam still no DFS?
>>
>>
>>
>> I wouldn't even use the 300s at 7 miles.  The 400s work best for pretty
>> much anything over two or three miles, M19 a mile, M16 a block or two
>> (micro pops).  At least that is how we use them.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:47 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> 19
>>
>>
>>   Jaime Solorza
>>
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:40 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Which ones? They range from 16 to 25 dBi.
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>
>> *To: *"Animal Farm" <[email protected]>
>> *Sent: *Saturday, March 14, 2015 1:38:31 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Nanobeam still no DFS?
>>
>>
>>
>> we tried a  seven mile link with them...not impressed in field test,  we
>> ended up putting two rockets for the link.   we are going to try them in a
>> 3 mile link next,
>>
>>
>>   Jaime Solorza
>>
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> ouch.
>>
>> Does that mean that if you need DFS, and the application wants a
>> nano-bxxxx, the bxxx=bridge?
>>
>> That sure sucks, because I was under the impression that I'd never have
>> to install another nanobridge.
>>
>> Which I do not like.
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>>
>>   On 3/14/2015 11:32 AM, John Woodfield wrote:
>>
>> No DFS for nanobeams. Doubt there ever will be.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> John Woodfield, President
>>
>> Delmarva WiFi Inc.
>>
>> 410-870-WiFi
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Ken Hohhof" mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2015 1:56pm
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Nanobeam still no DFS?
>>
>> Not sure why UBNT makes it so difficult to determine which models are
>> legal
>> in which bands. Am I interpreting correctly that Nanobeams are still
>> limited to 5.7 GHz?
>>
>> I have to do a 2000 ft link to an omni and an NBE-M5-16 or 19 seems
>> perfect.
>> I could use a NanoStation Loco, but that doesn't seem right for 2000
>> feet,
>> even if the Loco is already hitting max EIRP. I guess my only other
>> choice
>> would be a NanoBridge, not sure why I can't find the 22 dBi version, and
>> the
>> 25 dBi seems like overkill, actually they both seem like overkill.
>>
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