How is that going? I've got the 5.6 beta running on a small selection of
subscribers, but I'm not really willing to make extensive use of it
until (if?) it sees the light of day as a real release.
...and OBTW, what is the ETA on the expanded UNII frequencies on the
nanobeam platform? Given a choice, I would only install nanobeams these
days, except they don't cover all the frequencies we need. So I grit my
teeth and install more (UGH) nanobridges.
Really wish those boat anchors would go away.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 4/1/2015 4:29 PM, Matt Hardy wrote:
I have to admit Ubiquiti doesn't have a great track record of SNMP
support (I know I know) ;) -- but we're working on it. Trying to get
it right in v5.6 with our new / custom MIB. If you guys need devices
to test with, we'll be glad to donate a few...
Thanks,
Matt
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:50 AM, Josh Baird <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
A lot of the products that WISPs use have historically had sketchy
(and ever changing) SNMP support which is probably one reason he
is acting the way that he is. I am -not- making an excuse for his
behavior or attitude; just stating a fact.
Josh
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 9:44 AM, WaveDirect <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Just shows you what sort "person" this guy is. Let him rot in
his own cesspool of hate. He just saw a bunch of work ahead
of him that would benefit a great deal of people, took a half
assed stab at it and then said "naw I'm too lazy I don't want
to do it."
Its a classic case of cognitive dissonance. I'd like to do
it, but its too hard therefore I don't want to do it and
screw you I can't do it so I hate all of you.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 1, 2015 9:00:13 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks
of WISPS
What does Adam Armstrong’s Linkedin profile say “Wispa
Connoisseur”? He likes Wispa candy bars? It seems ironic if
he looks down on WISPs.
From: David Milholen
Sent: Wednesday, April 01, 2015 7:27 AM
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks
of WISPS
Some folks in the coding world think they have the million
dollar code and is above everyone else when in reality they
suck at everything else
and only have a decent piece of code nothing more. This is
where open source gets versatile and ugly at times because
someone that is willing
to build the initial code to a higher standard can see the
flaws others have made and fix what needs to be fixed.
These are the guys who make open source a great place to play.
Our entire core is built around open source our VMs and phy
servers are all open source. I dont have a single windows
machine in my office now.
I did have an old XP machine to run linkplanner but WINE has
come a long way so now I run it on my Debian console with no
issue.
all of our techs use small laptops with either crashbang linux
or Lubuntu on them to allow them to switch between networks
quickly.
Our Senior tech can be in and out of a home in less than 40min
with contract and paid invoice.
up until last year we made the change to move all tech laptops
to linux.
On 3/31/2015 5:01 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
I haven't paid him a dime, but it does many things very well.
It's like the guy that made the badass bandwidth shaper
years ago. He was a tool, but people still bought it because
it was the best at what it did.
Eventually someone else will make something better and not
be a tool, but that's where we're at for now.
-----
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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From: "Lists" mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:41:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks
of WISPS
So write a good product = you can treat customers (yes I
paid the sub) however you want. Belittle industries
publically without consequence?
Why are you apologizing for him? The means justifies the
end? I think its because you are probably the person who paid
him to put the Trango Apex code in as well as other things and
are invested.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Hammett" mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:38:00 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks
of WISPS
Lots of people do just that because it's the best at what it
does do.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lists" mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:36:39 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks
of WISPS
Also a total douchebag and has scared more than one person
away from his product with his personality. I openly admitted
to him his product was great but the lack of flexibility will
be his downfall. Nobody will want to do business with a person
like this who openly calls you and everything you work for a
"retard"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Hammett" mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 11:33:07 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks
of WISPS
Adam is very strong in his beliefs. that said, they're
usually founded on something concrete.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lists" mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 10:09:41 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of
WISPS
This was on the channel #observium in open public chat (not
private). Its pruned to take out some joins/parts useless info
etc. I simply asked about support for Cambium and now we know
exactly what he thinks of "wifi people". This guy is a true
professional. Funny they think Mikrotik is "ghetto". Sure he
makes some valid points about the lack of unity in our MIBS. I
liked his product for our infrastructure, switches, routers
etc. But I think I can get by without his product from now on.
This is the luxury of having many independent monitoring
systems. It lacks any real alerting system or agents for
servers anyway. I literally started off with that sentence. He
added some cambium support a few months ago so I wanted to
know if more was coming.
[09:34] <Smeghead> any chance of adding more cambium stuff
soon? :)
[09:34] <adama> are they another bunch of fucktards who make
a new set of mibs for every product?
[09:35] <adama> everyone involved in wireless seems to be
literally retarded when it comes to writing mibs
[09:37] <adama> yup, they are
[09:38] <Smeghead> Yeah so I guess we shouldn't support it
then and all the millions of units out there.
[09:38] <adama> different set of mibs for every fuckign product
[09:38] <adama> jesus
[09:38] <Smeghead> They unified one of their mibs with the
regular AP's
[09:38] <adama> can you english?
[09:39] <Smeghead> The interface stuff is the same for all
of them
[09:39] <Smeghead> its your standard interface mibs. Other
than that really there is MAYBE 10 unique things per different
product
[09:40] <adama> fucking wifi people
[09:40] <adama> you guys have 12903819023810 products from
129381 vendors
[09:40] <Smeghead> If you want to be thorough with them you
could pull all sorts of stuff out.
[09:40] <adama> and you're always whining that we should
support the stuff you want
[09:40] <adama> well fuck you all
[09:40] <Smeghead> Yeah thats my fault as a consumer of
those products.
[09:41] <Smeghead> All I want to do is monitor the best..
Cambium is the biggest and most widely used next to Ubiquiti..
so I'd stick to supporting those 2 fully
[09:41] <adama> meh
[09:41] <adama> get them to send us hardware
[09:41] <adama> and maybe we'll give a shit
[09:43] <Smeghead> I'll see if we can send you cambium for
sure. I could even arrange you a login or set you up a vm on
the network so you can probe some equipment we have plugged in
in a separate environment for you.
[09:43] <Smeghead> I'm pretty sure I offered a few times.
[09:49] <Smeghead> to be honest though - I don't think
observium is really hugely needed for AP's and subcribers.
Maybe starting with just the wireless bridges first would be
the best start. That isn't so overwhelming
[09:57] <adama> you might as well go and hassle jaguar
engineers about how they really should build a pickup truck
[09:57] <adama> i'm a telco/isp network person, i don't give
2 shits about wireless
[09:57] <Smeghead> Who do you think delivers internet to the
massive areas between the major cities?
[09:58] <adama> i dunno, are we talking about retarded
countries or not?
[09:58] <Smeghead> Yeah all of the Western hemisphere..
[09:59] <adama> lol
[09:59] <adama> XD
[10:01] <adama> my patience for people asking for wireless
stuff ran out long ago
[10:01] <Smeghead> Well if you want more excuses to neglect
a high percentage of industry in the world that delivers
internet.. yeah take this one. Its probably too hard and too
much work for you. Because the wireless industry is retarded.
[10:01] <adama> i know it is
[10:02] <Smeghead> Yet I can make some cacti graphs in a few
mins for anything. Cacti is old and busted. Your product is
new and refreshing. That is why the industry is bugging you.
[10:04] <adama> go and make some cacti graphs then
[10:04] <adama> i'm really fucking sick of this shit
[10:04] <adama> it doesn't take 5 minutes to add support for
things
[10:04] <adama> especially no nfucking wireless stuff
[10:04] <adama> so just fuck off
[10:04] <adama> it's not going to happen
[10:04] <adama> and every one who asks makes it less likely
to happen
[ 10:06] <Smeghead> But I'll bet if you asked for help you'd
get it. Look I was willing to set you up a network with all
the devices you need
[10:06] <adama> excuse me whilst i replace these 32*10G
bundles with some wireless
[10:06] <adama> HURR
[10:06] <adama> no
[10:06] <adama> i'd get a pile of useless shitty code
[10:06] <adama> that's the only thing we've ever gotten from
the "community"
[10:09] <aden> adama: make Observium -3rd world edition,
that only supports mikrotik and ghetto wireless hardware
[10:09] <adama> hah
[10:10] <Smeghead> Mainly because its (Mikrotik) like 10% of
the price and does the same job and even better in many cases.
[10:11] <adama> no, they use it because it "just about
works" and costs 10% of the price
[10:11] <Smeghead> Dragonwave aint ghetto nor some of these
other backhaul manufacturers.
[10:12] <Smeghead> and your proof is from what experience?
[10:12] <Smeghead> Sounds like a case of "they suck over
there" and "I know all about them, I've never worked in the
industry or actually been a part of any of it but I know what
I'm talking about".
[10:13] <Smeghead> Those crazy brown people and their silly
ways. They are inferior to us.
[10:13] <adama> man, this is exactly the kind of shit that
made us go commercial in the first place
[10:14] <adama> dude
[10:14] <adama> just fuck off
[10:14] <adama> you're getting really tiring now
[10:14] <Smeghead> It takes 10x more effort to deliver
internet to remote people.. not to mention flexibility and
creativity.
[10:14] <Smeghead> Than some pompous pricks sitting in their
offices
[10:15] <adama> so what was that, remove any existing
wireless support and hope everyone else fucks off too?
[10:16] <adama> ok then!
[10:16] <Smeghead> Hahh what wireless support?
[10:16] * ChanServ sets mode: +o adama
[10:16] * You were kicked by adama (Smeghead)
Session Close: Tue Mar 31 10:16:22 2015
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