Personally? I don't think there's anything there's anything that justifies his reactions and behavior.
He wrote some semi useful code, he didn't discover the missing link, sequence the genome, or cure Ebola. F*%k 'em. There's enough cases of over-inflated self importance in the world. On April 3, 2015 11:59:53 PM AKDT, Jon Auer <[email protected]> wrote: >It's more than just OIDs, adding device support involves a fair amount >of >fiddly little things. Finding/cropping icon, regex to match the >OS/device >type to handle it correctly, logic to handle the device-specific >things, >logic to work around whatever they broke in the MIB (remember when >Cambium >returned strings instead of ints for some counters?). Then more >testing. > >That's what makes Observium more useful out of the box than something >like >Cacti where you're adding OIDs onesey twosey to device templates. > >I think a big part of his reaction is, if you watch IRC, for the past >few >months to years there have been people asking for WISP features and >pretty >much nobody in a place to write code to do it. My guess is he is time >constrained and would rather work on other things (hence >non-responsiveness >to offers of money) combined with not wanting to deal with what could >be >perceived as self-entitled communication from some users. > >The hostile reaction to WISP gear: >CMMMicro is a switch that doesn't even use the switch MIB -> Work done >to >support WISP devices doesn't pay off in helping support other >Enterprise/Wireline devices. > >Cambium is extra special because they version the PMP MIB against OS >rev >instead of starting out with a well-designed MIB as spec and fixing OS >to >match. The easy way out is to ignore that and use the latest but what >happens when Cambium updates something? Bug reports from users on new >OS >complaining that something doesn't work. You update and now there's bug >reports from the users that want to stay on old OS for a while. The >hard >way? Handle every OS rev differently/code gardening responsibility? You >just can't win. > ><I digress> >So, WISP gear, he doesn't need it and doesn't care. I need it and care >so I >write what I need. I may not appreciate the politics of Observium but >I'm >being pragmatic. I contributed what little Cambium PMP device support >there >is in Observium currently and I have more devices I'd like to see >supported. If the time comes that my contributions are turned away I'll >look for another monitoring solution, not out of spite but because I >need >to monitor all the things. > >There may come a time when I move to LibreNMS. They seem to have >openness & >saying yes down but I want to see how they handle saying no to >extraneous >things/feature creep beyond monitoring metrics (e.g. if it were me, >allow/keep rancid integration but just say no to generalized IPAM). >You can't please everyone and who/how they choose to please will be >insightful. ></I digress> > >On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Do we know why Adam blows up whenever people specify OIDs they want >to >> track? I've never bothered to figure it out myself. He made it seem >like >> hte OID was such a small part of everything that needed to be done. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Neil Lathwood" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 31, 2015 1:08:23 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of >WISPS >> >> On 31 March 2015 at 19:04, WaveDirect <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yeah you should accept at least equipment donations :) Some of us >may >>> have spares we can part with and after you are done sell them to >help buy >>> other products you want to support. >>> >> >> The donation of equipment is a huge ++++. It wouldn't be necessary to >send >> the kit anywhere just provide snmp access, that way we can see what >data is >> available and work on adding support. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Neil >> >> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
