Dang, editing that on mobile during a really good horror movie really killed some of the impact I had hoped it would have. Oh well.
If anyone here gets a chance to watch "The Babadook", give it a go. It's excellent! On April 4, 2015 12:07:55 AM AKDT, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote: >Personally? I don't think there's anything there's anything that >justifies his reactions and behavior. > >He wrote some semi useful code, he didn't discover the missing link, >sequence the genome, or cure Ebola. > >F*%k 'em. > >There's enough cases of over-inflated self importance in the world. > >On April 3, 2015 11:59:53 PM AKDT, Jon Auer <[email protected]> wrote: >>It's more than just OIDs, adding device support involves a fair amount >>of >>fiddly little things. Finding/cropping icon, regex to match the >>OS/device >>type to handle it correctly, logic to handle the device-specific >>things, >>logic to work around whatever they broke in the MIB (remember when >>Cambium >>returned strings instead of ints for some counters?). Then more >>testing. >> >>That's what makes Observium more useful out of the box than something >>like >>Cacti where you're adding OIDs onesey twosey to device templates. >> >>I think a big part of his reaction is, if you watch IRC, for the past >>few >>months to years there have been people asking for WISP features and >>pretty >>much nobody in a place to write code to do it. My guess is he is time >>constrained and would rather work on other things (hence >>non-responsiveness >>to offers of money) combined with not wanting to deal with what could >>be >>perceived as self-entitled communication from some users. >> >>The hostile reaction to WISP gear: >>CMMMicro is a switch that doesn't even use the switch MIB -> Work done >>to >>support WISP devices doesn't pay off in helping support other >>Enterprise/Wireline devices. >> >>Cambium is extra special because they version the PMP MIB against OS >>rev >>instead of starting out with a well-designed MIB as spec and fixing OS >>to >>match. The easy way out is to ignore that and use the latest but what >>happens when Cambium updates something? Bug reports from users on new >>OS >>complaining that something doesn't work. You update and now there's >bug >>reports from the users that want to stay on old OS for a while. The >>hard >>way? Handle every OS rev differently/code gardening responsibility? >You >>just can't win. >> >><I digress> >>So, WISP gear, he doesn't need it and doesn't care. I need it and care >>so I >>write what I need. I may not appreciate the politics of Observium but >>I'm >>being pragmatic. I contributed what little Cambium PMP device support >>there >>is in Observium currently and I have more devices I'd like to see >>supported. If the time comes that my contributions are turned away >I'll >>look for another monitoring solution, not out of spite but because I >>need >>to monitor all the things. >> >>There may come a time when I move to LibreNMS. They seem to have >>openness & >>saying yes down but I want to see how they handle saying no to >>extraneous >>things/feature creep beyond monitoring metrics (e.g. if it were me, >>allow/keep rancid integration but just say no to generalized IPAM). >>You can't please everyone and who/how they choose to please will be >>insightful. >></I digress> >> >>On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> >wrote: >> >>> Do we know why Adam blows up whenever people specify OIDs they want >>to >>> track? I've never bothered to figure it out myself. He made it seem >>like >>> hte OID was such a small part of everything that needed to be done. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Neil Lathwood" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 31, 2015 1:08:23 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] What Adam Armstrong of Observium thinks of >>WISPS >>> >>> On 31 March 2015 at 19:04, WaveDirect <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah you should accept at least equipment donations :) Some of us >>may >>>> have spares we can part with and after you are done sell them to >>help buy >>>> other products you want to support. >>>> >>> >>> The donation of equipment is a huge ++++. It wouldn't be necessary >to >>send >>> the kit anywhere just provide snmp access, that way we can see what >>data is >>> available and work on adding support. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Neil >>> >>> > >-- >Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
