Wow it's like a postcard for WISPs.

On Tuesday, May 5, 2015, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey, I have actual tower sites too.  I just prefer to keep my backhaul
> wind load off of the tower.  Here is my latest creation...
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@imaginenetworksllc.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Jeremy's "towers" are like 10 or 20 feet on top of a building or high up
>> land.
>>
>> Not to mention the conversion kits aren't even necessary.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jeremysmi...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> Luckily I already completed most of our AF5X conversions that were on a
>>> tower.  These adapters are for some upcoming deployments on Rocket dishes
>>> that we have in stock.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@spitwspots.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','j...@spitwspots.com');>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  These are *not* really made for doing on a tower. The screws and
>>>> threads are too small.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Reynolds
>>>> CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com
>>>>
>>>> On 05/05/2015 12:10 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I haven't tried any of the conversion kits, but the thing that concerns
>>>> me is that I've tried pulling the back piece off a couple Rocket dishes
>>>> that had been pulled from towers, and the screws were all too crusty to get
>>>> out - even on the ground, so I can't imagine that being too easy working on
>>>> a tower.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I did try taking apart a new/unused feedhorn, and it didn't
>>>> seem to be an issue, so it might be fine on the newer ones with the plastic
>>>> cover over the back...
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com
>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jeremysmi...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The biggest PITA about modifying our existing dishes was taking off
>>>>> and putting back on the raydomes.  It appears that is not an issue with
>>>>> these, as it is actually the back that you replace.  Cool!
>>>>>
>>>>> Oooohhhh, look what just arrived!  Now if only the next batch of AF5X
>>>>> would arrive....
>>>>>  On May 5, 2015 1:21 PM, "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com
>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jeremysmi...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My adapter kits just shipped yesterday from Streakwave, so I am not
>>>>>> sure yet.  These ones that I sent a picture of are modified feedhorns.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@kwisp.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   What about if you use their adapter kit (the one that also
>>>>>>> converts to dual slant)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m guessing my RF Armor radio shields are scrap though?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  *From:* Jeremy
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jeremysmi...@gmail.com');>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2015 11:38 AM
>>>>>>>  *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, they will slide right onto the Rocket dish if you only use
>>>>>>> the top two pins.
>>>>>>>  They won't directly bolt on to the old dishes due to the GPS
>>>>>>> connector being in the way, but you can use them on any antenna you 
>>>>>>> want.
>>>>>>> There's nothing proprietary about them. Just need pigtails and a method 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> mounting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
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>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>> *From: *"Sam Lambie" <samtaos...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','samtaos...@gmail.com');>>
>>>>>>> *To: *af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
>>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:38:01 AM
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can the 5x be installed on older Ubnt rocket 30 dbi dishes? or would
>>>>>>> I need to install new dishes to accommodate the new radios?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com
>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mhoward...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, you have to use different channels for RX and TX... which can
>>>>>>>> also be a significant advantage in some cases.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Jon Langeler <
>>>>>>>> jon-ispli...@michwave.net
>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jon-ispli...@michwave.net');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  In Ubiquiti's version of FDD, is it different channel range for
>>>>>>>>> the Rx? The risk there is anyone else sees that channel as clear.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2015, at 11:03 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','mhoward...@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   I've been seeing 1-2ms on out AF5x link, not quite as good as
>>>>>>>>> an AF5 in FDD, but better than any other synced radio I've seen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:03 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
>>>>>>>>> <geo...@cbcast.com
>>>>>>>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','geo...@cbcast.com');>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have one AF5 up running FDD in the DFS band at 3.4 miles. We
>>>>>>>>>> didn't want to try to push an AF24 that far. RTT average is around 
>>>>>>>>>> 0.8ms,
>>>>>>>>>> so yes, like a licensed radio.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No idea about the AF5X, haven't bought any. But I'd guess latency
>>>>>>>>>> would be similar to the AF5 or 24 in half-duplex mode, which is 
>>>>>>>>>> going to be
>>>>>>>>>> like 4-5ms. I have only done FDD though.. because it's moar better.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 5:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So I assume latency in FDD mode is sub millisecond like a
>>>>>>>>>>> licensed backhaul?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What's is latency like on the AF5X?  Similar to a PTP600, a few
>>>>>>>>>>> milliseconds and very constant?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup (Cyber
>>>>>>>>>>> Broadcasting)
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone point me to a concise explanation somewhere of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> difference between AF5 and AF5X? Where you would use each, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> what you
>>>>>>>>>>>> give up with the X in return for smaller, cheaper, lower power, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and drop-in
>>>>>>>>>>>> replacement for a Rocket?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know it doesn't have the built-in high isolation TX and RX
>>>>>>>>>>>> antennas, and doesn't do a gig of throughput.  But I'm sure 
>>>>>>>>>>>> there's more to
>>>>>>>>>>>> it.  It's not jumping out at me on the UBNT website.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>>>>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>>>>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>>>>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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