Our towers aren't like the ones that many of you are used to though.  The
tallest tower on my network currently is 65'.  However, our 35' tower is
1000' off the valley floor.  It's rough terrain for a WISP, that's for
sure.  LOL.

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:26 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hey, I have actual tower sites too.  I just prefer to keep my backhaul
> wind load off of the tower.  Here is my latest creation...
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Jeremy's "towers" are like 10 or 20 feet on top of a building or high up
>> land.
>>
>> Not to mention the conversion kits aren't even necessary.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Luckily I already completed most of our AF5X conversions that were on a
>>> tower.  These adapters are for some upcoming deployments on Rocket dishes
>>> that we have in stock.
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  These are *not* really made for doing on a tower. The screws and
>>>> threads are too small.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Reynolds
>>>> CIO, SPITwSPOTSwww.spitwspots.com
>>>>
>>>> On 05/05/2015 12:10 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I haven't tried any of the conversion kits, but the thing that concerns
>>>> me is that I've tried pulling the back piece off a couple Rocket dishes
>>>> that had been pulled from towers, and the screws were all too crusty to get
>>>> out - even on the ground, so I can't imagine that being too easy working on
>>>> a tower.
>>>>
>>>> That said, I did try taking apart a new/unused feedhorn, and it didn't
>>>> seem to be an issue, so it might be fine on the newer ones with the plastic
>>>> cover over the back...
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The biggest PITA about modifying our existing dishes was taking off
>>>>> and putting back on the raydomes.  It appears that is not an issue with
>>>>> these, as it is actually the back that you replace.  Cool!
>>>>>
>>>>> Oooohhhh, look what just arrived!  Now if only the next batch of AF5X
>>>>> would arrive....
>>>>>  On May 5, 2015 1:21 PM, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My adapter kits just shipped yesterday from Streakwave, so I am not
>>>>>> sure yet.  These ones that I sent a picture of are modified feedhorns.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   What about if you use their adapter kit (the one that also
>>>>>>> converts to dual slant)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I’m guessing my RF Armor radio shields are scrap though?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  *From:* Jeremy <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 05, 2015 11:38 AM
>>>>>>>  *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, they will slide right onto the Rocket dish if you only use
>>>>>>> the top two pins.
>>>>>>>  They won't directly bolt on to the old dishes due to the GPS
>>>>>>> connector being in the way, but you can use them on any antenna you 
>>>>>>> want.
>>>>>>> There's nothing proprietary about them. Just need pigtails and a method 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> mounting.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----
>>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange
>>>>>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>>>  ------------------------------
>>>>>>> *From: *"Sam Lambie" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:38:01 AM
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can the 5x be installed on older Ubnt rocket 30 dbi dishes? or would
>>>>>>> I need to install new dishes to accommodate the new radios?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, you have to use different channels for RX and TX... which can
>>>>>>>> also be a significant advantage in some cases.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Jon Langeler <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  In Ubiquiti's version of FDD, is it different channel range for
>>>>>>>>> the Rx? The risk there is anyone else sees that channel as clear.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On May 4, 2015, at 11:03 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   I've been seeing 1-2ms on out AF5x link, not quite as good as
>>>>>>>>> an AF5 in FDD, but better than any other synced radio I've seen.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:03 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have one AF5 up running FDD in the DFS band at 3.4 miles. We
>>>>>>>>>> didn't want to try to push an AF24 that far. RTT average is around 
>>>>>>>>>> 0.8ms,
>>>>>>>>>> so yes, like a licensed radio.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No idea about the AF5X, haven't bought any. But I'd guess latency
>>>>>>>>>> would be similar to the AF5 or 24 in half-duplex mode, which is 
>>>>>>>>>> going to be
>>>>>>>>>> like 4-5ms. I have only done FDD though.. because it's moar better.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 5:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So I assume latency in FDD mode is sub millisecond like a
>>>>>>>>>>> licensed backhaul?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> What's is latency like on the AF5X?  Similar to a PTP600, a few
>>>>>>>>>>> milliseconds and very constant?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup (Cyber
>>>>>>>>>>> Broadcasting)
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:48 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5/4/2015 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone point me to a concise explanation somewhere of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> difference between AF5 and AF5X? Where you would use each, and 
>>>>>>>>>>>> what you
>>>>>>>>>>>> give up with the X in return for smaller, cheaper, lower power, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and drop-in
>>>>>>>>>>>> replacement for a Rocket?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I know it doesn't have the built-in high isolation TX and RX
>>>>>>>>>>>> antennas, and doesn't do a gig of throughput.  But I'm sure 
>>>>>>>>>>>> there's more to
>>>>>>>>>>>> it.  It's not jumping out at me on the UBNT website.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *Sam Lambie*
>>>>>>> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>>>>>> 575-758-7598 Office
>>>>>>> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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