It would make me want to take a trip out to the tower after those customer 
support calls from hell.

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 8:36 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

Wowwww that's a good picture!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:26 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:

  Hey, I have actual tower sites too.  I just prefer to keep my backhaul wind 
load off of the tower.  Here is my latest creation...

  On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:23 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> 
wrote:

    Jeremy's "towers" are like 10 or 20 feet on top of a building or high up 
land. 

    Not to mention the conversion kits aren't even necessary.



    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373


    On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:

      Luckily I already completed most of our AF5X conversions that were on a 
tower.  These adapters are for some upcoming deployments on Rocket dishes that 
we have in stock.

      On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:15 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> wrote:

        These are *not* really made for doing on a tower. The screws and 
threads are too small.

Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.comOn 05/05/2015 12:10 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:

          I haven't tried any of the conversion kits, but the thing that 
concerns me is that I've tried pulling the back piece off a couple Rocket 
dishes that had been pulled from towers, and the screws were all too crusty to 
get out - even on the ground, so I can't imagine that being too easy working on 
a tower. 

          That said, I did try taking apart a new/unused feedhorn, and it 
didn't seem to be an issue, so it might be fine on the newer ones with the 
plastic cover over the back...


          On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:

            The biggest PITA about modifying our existing dishes was taking off 
and putting back on the raydomes.  It appears that is not an issue with these, 
as it is actually the back that you replace.  Cool!

            Oooohhhh, look what just arrived!  Now if only the next batch of 
AF5X would arrive....

            On May 5, 2015 1:21 PM, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:

              My adapter kits just shipped yesterday from Streakwave, so I am 
not sure yet.  These ones that I sent a picture of are modified feedhorns. 

              On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                What about if you use their adapter kit (the one that also 
converts to dual slant)?

                I’m guessing my RF Armor radio shields are scrap though?


                From: Jeremy 
                Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 11:38 AM
                To: [email protected] 
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X

                Actually, they will slide right onto the Rocket dish if you 
only use the top two pins.

                They won't directly bolt on to the old dishes due to the GPS 
connector being in the way, but you can use them on any antenna you want. 
There's nothing proprietary about them. Just need pigtails and a method of 
mounting. 





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                From: "Sam Lambie" <[email protected]>
                To: [email protected]
                Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:38:01 AM
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X


                Can the 5x be installed on older Ubnt rocket 30 dbi dishes? or 
would I need to install new dishes to accommodate the new radios?


                On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Mathew Howard 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                  Yes, you have to use different channels for RX and TX... 
which can also be a significant advantage in some cases.


                  On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Jon Langeler 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                    In Ubiquiti's version of FDD, is it different channel range 
for the Rx? The risk there is anyone else sees that channel as clear. 


                    Sent from my iPhone

                    On May 4, 2015, at 11:03 PM, Mathew Howard 
<[email protected]> wrote:


                      I've been seeing 1-2ms on out AF5x link, not quite as 
good as an AF5 in FDD, but better than any other synced radio I've seen.


                      On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:03 PM, George Skorup (Cyber 
Broadcasting) <[email protected]> wrote:

                        I have one AF5 up running FDD in the DFS band at 3.4 
miles. We didn't want to try to push an AF24 that far. RTT average is around 
0.8ms, so yes, like a licensed radio.

                        No idea about the AF5X, haven't bought any. But I'd 
guess latency would be similar to the AF5 or 24 in half-duplex mode, which is 
going to be like 4-5ms. I have only done FDD though.. because it's moar better.

                        On 5/4/2015 5:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

                          So I assume latency in FDD mode is sub millisecond 
like a licensed backhaul?

                          What's is latency like on the AF5X?  Similar to a 
PTP600, a few milliseconds and very constant?


                          -----Original Message----- From: George Skorup (Cyber 
Broadcasting)
                          Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 5:48 PM
                          To: [email protected]
                          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF5 vs AF5X


                          No FDD. Not 48 volt. Not 40+ watts.

                          On 5/4/2015 5:45 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

                            Can someone point me to a concise explanation 
somewhere of the difference between AF5 and AF5X? Where you would use each, and 
what you give up with the X in return for smaller, cheaper, lower power, and 
drop-in replacement for a Rocket?

                            I know it doesn't have the built-in high isolation 
TX and RX antennas, and doesn't do a gig of throughput.  But I'm sure there's 
more to it.  It's not jumping out at me on the UBNT website.












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