My Rocket M5 is passing 30 megs on it right now.  So again, if it is
misaligned:
AF5x doesn't associate
Rocket M5 passes 30 megs

If it is aligned:
AF5x doesn't associate
Rocket M5 passes 30 megs

Which would you prefer?

What if this was a new install and I'm trying to align it starting with
AF5x radios?  At that kind of a signal it won't associate?!  I remember the
days when I could have an XR5 in an rb532 with a grid laying in the bed
associate at -90 to make sure the configuration was right.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

>   If you’re supposed to have –51 but actually have –66 on one chain and
> –77 on the other, you’re on a sidelobe or don’t have clear LOS or are so
> badly misaligned you’re operating on multipath.  So it may be unfair to say
> that AF5X is requiring “perfect alignment”.  The dBm level may not be
> telling the whole story, if you aren’t even in the right zipcode as far as
> alignment.
>
>  *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 12, 2015 9:28 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links
>
>  Let's assume it is misaligned (based on what Alex said it should be
> something like -51).  AF5x can't register unless it's perfectly aligned?
> That's the part that concerns me the most.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Matt Hardy <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Technically, the support files said
>>
>>                   status: slave-registering
>>                  rxpower0: -66
>>                  rxpower1: -77
>>                rxcapacity: 3840
>>
>> In most cases, this kind of chain imbalance means alignment or bad
>> pigtail. We know Josh Luthman knows how to align radios ;), so still
>> waiting to see if replacing it with a spare fixes it.
>> If it does, this would be the first case we've heard about w/ these
>> symptoms, and thousands have been installed successfully, with great
>> feedback.
>>
>> Either way, let us know what you find...
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Support files said the slave heard the master at -66.  Doubt it.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>   On Jun 11, 2015 8:13 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   New EIRP rules biting you in the ass?
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 11, 2015 6:56 PM
>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force110 PTP links
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> EPTP mode fills the latency fix.
>>>>
>>>> My first attempt at AF5x and it won't even register.  I'm trying to
>>>> replace Rockets that link up at -66.  I'm told that there's a path issue or
>>>> bad radio.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 7:45 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why exactly? Just asking. I'm wondering if we should be doing cheap
>>>>> PTP with ePMP or AF5x. I have several Force110 links up (just SMs, not 
>>>>> PTP)
>>>>> operating all across the 5GHz bands. And one 10 mile link with Laird 2'
>>>>> dishes using connectorized non-GPS radios. Other than some oddities like
>>>>> intermittent increases in latency, they have all been working very well.
>>>>> Most are still running 2.3.3 and I don't want to touch them because 
>>>>> they're
>>>>> working just fine. I'm leaning towards the Force110 PTP radios and 
>>>>> whatever
>>>>> antennas required for new links since it fits with all the other Canopy 
>>>>> and
>>>>> ePMP stuff (power injection, etc). But the AFs sure are nice when you can
>>>>> do FDD (except the 5X!) and get very low latency like licensed.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/11/2015 6:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Honestly I think they're better than AF5x at this point.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 7:25 PM, "joseph marsh" <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I got 2 links ready to deploy  just sitting the office waiting to go
>>>>>> up on the tower
>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 5:34 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Uhm...I guess?  It hears noise better than Ubnt for sure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 6:23 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does the force auto select a clean frequency?
>>>>>>>> On Jun 11, 2015 5:13 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> containerized... that must be when you buy a cheap router from
>>>>>>>>> walmart in put it on a tower in a rubbermaid container.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 5:06 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You mean connectorized?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/11/2015 2:21 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The containerized 5 GHz radios do the same throughput
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
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