That may be true, but I think AppleCare phone support has gone downhill.  They 
are just script readers like everyone else now.  And they aren’t even trained 
well on their own products, like not knowing that WiFi-only iPads don’t have 
GPS.

From: Chuck Hogg 
Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 7:49 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Here's proof that Apple fanboys actuallyadoreAndroid

That's true.  That's why they have Genius Bar.  Not really trying to argue 
here, but their support over Windows/PC is flat out awesome.  Take it for a 
ride one day and go to one of their stores...they make it easy, they personally 
take the time to teach their clients things, and they even hold micro classes 
for people to teach them how to use it.  Granted not every city has one, it's 
still available to many people.

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

  My view from the phone support perspective is people should buy whatever 
device they like, as long as they know how to use it, or are willing to learn.

  But if you are ignorant and like it that way, please disregard the outdated 
wisdom that any idiot can operate a Mac because they are so simple and 
intuitive.  If you don’t even know where the power switch is, how to launch an 
application or find a file, or how to connect to a WiFi network, please buy 
whatever the other 95% of the world buys, because that’s what I’m going to be 
able to walk you through from memory, crib sheets, or the Windows machine 
sitting on my desk.

  Don’t buy a foreign sports car and then expect the dealer or gas station 
attendant to teach you how to shift.  If you are lucky to know what hole the 
gas goes in, you should have bought the Camry.


  From: Chuck Hogg 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2015 6:45 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Here's proof that Apple fanboys actually adoreAndroid

  It's hard to argue with a company that makes $180B+ last year, and has a 
market cap of $700B+, and has some of the largest earnings of all time.  I 
don't think there's a company of that size in that space.  Google and 
Microsoft's estimated value together are not as big as Apple's.  Someone is 
doing something right...all of them do something...but it definitely shows 
someone is doing something right.  Just because I use an iPhone doesn't mean I 
can't prefer Windows on the desktop.

  Regards,
  Chuck

  On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 7:38 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:

    On 8/5/2015 3:42 PM, Travis Johnson wrote:

      Say what you want... Apple is still the largest company in the world... 
still... this discussion has been going on for 5+ years now... and Apple is 
making more money than they can spend... and Samsung is losing more money every 
quarter. :)

    Largest based on stock price. That's a moving target. Apple will rot 
someday.


      All the phone manufacturers love Android because it's free. Ask any of 
them if they would actually pay for it and see what response you get. LOL

    Apple gives theirs away too, but you have to buy an Apple phone to use it. 
No thanks. I don't like the tiny box you have to live inside in order to use it.


      Just like everyone is jumping on Windows 10... because it's a free 
upgrade. 

    And Apple gives theirs away too for the most part.

    meh 


    bp
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