I think you give other countries more credit than they deserve. I'll argue, all things considered, we are the least broken country in existence.
On Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 3:39 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote: > Logic went out years ago. There is iron in the words Patrick wrote no > paper can hold...(apologies to Ten Bears)... > > Jaime Solorza > On Oct 10, 2015 2:32 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> What's right for one country, isn't necessarily right for another. While >> I would love to be able to drive as fast I think is safe, knowing how the >> typical American drives, I'd guess that it would be far more deadly here >> than in Germany. I suspect the same logic applies to other stuff to some >> extent. >> On Oct 10, 2015 11:05 AM, "Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Countrys with weak gun control have more shot people. Simple logic in my >>> eyes. >>> >>> Nothing to say against if the majority of a country takes this into >>> account. Just strange in >>> >>> the eyes of a foreign citizen. >>> >>> In my country you can buy a BMW and drive as fast as you think it is ok >>> on highways. >>> >>> this kills, too. Same arguments here. It is the freedom to drive. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *Von:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *Im Auftrag von *Mike Hammett >>> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 10. Oktober 2015 16:47 >>> *An:* [email protected] >>> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >>> >>> >>> >>> Except that most mass shootings are done with weapons that were obtained >>> in circumstances that even the most strict of control laws would allow. The >>> weapons painted as being so evil just plain aren't used in these situations. >>> >>> Logic doesn't lead you to gun control. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:12:08 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >>> >>> I carry a .380 pistol with me most of the time but I only own three guns >>> myself. I also consider myself to have many Democratic views when it comes >>> to gun policy and Republican views with taxes & business aspects. >>> >>> >>> >>> I personally think it should be MUCH harder to purchase a firearm than >>> it is. When I purchased my new glock, I ordered it online at Gander >>> Mountain and walked into the store, they did a quick background check and I >>> walked out in 10 minutes. It was great to me as a consumer and easy. BUT, >>> what if I was angry or in the heat of the moment and wanted to harm people. >>> Now that easy gun purchase allowed me to walk out the same day with a >>> deadly weapon. >>> >>> >>> >>> I do not think our government is trying to take guns away as the crazy >>> Republicans like to lie about. I do think we should have much stricter gun >>> control though to keep the nutty people from having easy access. All that >>> is going to do is make it take longer to purchase a legal firearm, which I >>> am perfectly fine with if it prevents even one shooting death or mass >>> shooting. >>> >>> >>> >>> If there's other policies being proposed that can help limit access to >>> guns, I'm all for it if it still allows me to purchase a pistol to carry >>> legally and a shotgun to go hunting. I don't believe I should be allowed to >>> own a machine gun type weapon for use at my home. Weapons like that should >>> be allowed only at shooting ranges and locked up under heavy security. They >>> do not belong at a residential home anywhere for sport or home protection. >>> >>> >>> >>> So anyway, I think there are gun nuts out there that like to walk around >>> while open carrying and say Obama is trying to steal all our guns. I think >>> they're crazy and need a bonk on the head to come to your senses. Try >>> acting normal and conceal your weapon, don't talk like a crazy gun nut and >>> try to realize you don't need a machine gun. >>> >>> >>> >>> The government's job is to protect as many citizens as possible. That >>> means more laws, more enforcement, and more compliance. We can't easily >>> identify and stop all people who will commit a shooting crime. We can more >>> easily target guns themselves and prevent the sale of them to as many "bad" >>> people as possible. For "good" and legal people who want to buy one, stop >>> complaining about gun control and embrace it in order to help save lives. >>> Gun control isn't meant for good people, only the bad people. You'll still >>> be able to buy any weapon you "need" in order to hunt or protect your home. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Freedom is not the exercise to choose whatever you want. Heck then free >>> all the child molesters! Human beings need to be controlled, that the whole >>> reasoning behind laws. Im with Jaime and Stefan on this. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> There are many items that kill more humans than first world guns. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]> >>> *To: *[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Friday, October 9, 2015 11:21:43 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >>> >>> Looking at this with a foreign view I can't understand this "gun love" >>> in US. It is not all about the criminals or idiots. Just look at the >>> statistics for accidents with weapons. The only way to save lifes is to be >>> very restrictive. If someone wants to shoot he can go to a shooting club >>> and leave the weapon there. It is not freedom to have a gun at home. It is >>> silly esp. with kids around. >>> >>> You can't avoid killing with banning weapons but you can reduce it. If I >>> need a weapon I call for police or security. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Darin Steffl >>> >>> Minnesota WiFi >>> >>> www.mnwifi.com >>> >>> 507-634-WiFi >>> >>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook >>> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >>> >>> >>> >>
