Logic went out years ago. There is iron in the words Patrick wrote no paper can hold...(apologies to Ten Bears)...
Jaime Solorza On Oct 10, 2015 2:32 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> wrote: > What's right for one country, isn't necessarily right for another. While I > would love to be able to drive as fast I think is safe, knowing how the > typical American drives, I'd guess that it would be far more deadly here > than in Germany. I suspect the same logic applies to other stuff to some > extent. > On Oct 10, 2015 11:05 AM, "Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Countrys with weak gun control have more shot people. Simple logic in my >> eyes. >> >> Nothing to say against if the majority of a country takes this into >> account. Just strange in >> >> the eyes of a foreign citizen. >> >> In my country you can buy a BMW and drive as fast as you think it is ok >> on highways. >> >> this kills, too. Same arguments here. It is the freedom to drive. >> >> >> >> >> >> *Von:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *Im Auftrag von *Mike Hammett >> *Gesendet:* Samstag, 10. Oktober 2015 16:47 >> *An:* [email protected] >> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >> >> >> >> Except that most mass shootings are done with weapons that were obtained >> in circumstances that even the most strict of control laws would allow. The >> weapons painted as being so evil just plain aren't used in these situations. >> >> Logic doesn't lead you to gun control. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Saturday, October 10, 2015 8:12:08 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >> >> I carry a .380 pistol with me most of the time but I only own three guns >> myself. I also consider myself to have many Democratic views when it comes >> to gun policy and Republican views with taxes & business aspects. >> >> >> >> I personally think it should be MUCH harder to purchase a firearm than it >> is. When I purchased my new glock, I ordered it online at Gander Mountain >> and walked into the store, they did a quick background check and I walked >> out in 10 minutes. It was great to me as a consumer and easy. BUT, what if >> I was angry or in the heat of the moment and wanted to harm people. Now >> that easy gun purchase allowed me to walk out the same day with a deadly >> weapon. >> >> >> >> I do not think our government is trying to take guns away as the crazy >> Republicans like to lie about. I do think we should have much stricter gun >> control though to keep the nutty people from having easy access. All that >> is going to do is make it take longer to purchase a legal firearm, which I >> am perfectly fine with if it prevents even one shooting death or mass >> shooting. >> >> >> >> If there's other policies being proposed that can help limit access to >> guns, I'm all for it if it still allows me to purchase a pistol to carry >> legally and a shotgun to go hunting. I don't believe I should be allowed to >> own a machine gun type weapon for use at my home. Weapons like that should >> be allowed only at shooting ranges and locked up under heavy security. They >> do not belong at a residential home anywhere for sport or home protection. >> >> >> >> So anyway, I think there are gun nuts out there that like to walk around >> while open carrying and say Obama is trying to steal all our guns. I think >> they're crazy and need a bonk on the head to come to your senses. Try >> acting normal and conceal your weapon, don't talk like a crazy gun nut and >> try to realize you don't need a machine gun. >> >> >> >> The government's job is to protect as many citizens as possible. That >> means more laws, more enforcement, and more compliance. We can't easily >> identify and stop all people who will commit a shooting crime. We can more >> easily target guns themselves and prevent the sale of them to as many "bad" >> people as possible. For "good" and legal people who want to buy one, stop >> complaining about gun control and embrace it in order to help save lives. >> Gun control isn't meant for good people, only the bad people. You'll still >> be able to buy any weapon you "need" in order to hunt or protect your home. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 5:48 AM, Gino Villarini <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Freedom is not the exercise to choose whatever you want. Heck then free >> all the child molesters! Human beings need to be controlled, that the whole >> reasoning behind laws. Im with Jaime and Stefan on this. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 6:28 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> There are many items that kill more humans than first world guns. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> http://www.ics-il.com >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Friday, October 9, 2015 11:21:43 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings >> >> Looking at this with a foreign view I can't understand this "gun love" in >> US. It is not all about the criminals or idiots. Just look at the >> statistics for accidents with weapons. The only way to save lifes is to be >> very restrictive. If someone wants to shoot he can go to a shooting club >> and leave the weapon there. It is not freedom to have a gun at home. It is >> silly esp. with kids around. >> >> You can't avoid killing with banning weapons but you can reduce it. If I >> need a weapon I call for police or security. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Darin Steffl >> >> Minnesota WiFi >> >> www.mnwifi.com >> >> 507-634-WiFi >> >> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> Like us on Facebook >> <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >> >> >> >
