So... you're saying we should elect Trump? He does run a large
organization, afterall :P

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Everyone wants to elect a President based on ideology (or likeability),
> ignoring that the primary job is to run the executive branch.  Eisenhower
> was probably the last POTUS who came to the job with credentials for
> effectively running a giant organization.  Not saying someone can’t grow to
> fill the job, look at Reagan and JFK.  But seriously, Ben Carson?
>
> I see the same mistake in the current contest to see what poor schmuck
> gets to be Speaker of the House.  They want to make it about ideology, and
> yes it’s about getting the ideology of the majority caucus into
> legislation, but the Speaker should be a get-stuff-done type, not an
> ideologue.  People still remember Sam Rayburn and Tip O’Neill.  Hey, they
> could bring Newt Gingrich or Denny Hastert out of retirement.  Looks like
> Hastert will avoid jail time, and he could probably use the money after
> paying all that hush money.
>
>
> *From:* Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2015 10:22 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc
>
> Your vision of Reagan is of a cartoon character, devoid of reality,
> factually ignorant, and it vastly insults his memory. Were Reagan president
> today, you'd be calling him a "libtard." You are clearly under 40 years old.
>
> Patrick Leary
> Telrad
> On Oct 11, 2015 5:47 PM, Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nixon was conservative, but  with him  trying to cover up his crooked
> tail, we never saw much of anything from him.  He was truly ineffective.
> Ford  and Bush??  Hahaha.  Not conservative  RINO.  Reagan, a different
> story. He wasn't perfect, but in his heart he held conservatism high.
> There is only one way to preside and that is to work  with the other side
> some.  That's when he had to give up his far right position some  Nixon is
> the only conservative that had any bearing on this country in the last 50
> years.  I should say conservative bearing!
>
> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
> > wrote:
>
>> Nixon Ford Reagan Bush...
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes, one.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You know we've had conservative politicians and presidents in the last
>>>> 50 years right?
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> On Oct 11, 2015 3:52 PM, "Philip Rankin" <wireless...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Since many of you are calling me rude, how about we just reverse that
>>>>> logic???  How about all of the damage the liberal logic has done to this
>>>>> country in the past say 50 years????  Is that not rude?  You know, 
>>>>> actually
>>>>> it's so far beyond rude, that we can't measure it anymore.  Start with the
>>>>> debt, the credit ratings of the country, the backdoor payoff deals, the
>>>>> stupidity of laws that cover laws that should not have ever been written 
>>>>> in
>>>>> the first place.  Or, the stupid recent healthcare law that the majority 
>>>>> of
>>>>> the population don't want because we were lied to about it.  And then the
>>>>> RINOs bailing out their favorite companies after they got their kickbacks?
>>>>> And this isn't even the tip of the iceberg. It's all liberal stupidity.
>>>>> Notice I didn't say Democrat or Republican?  It's libtards! These folk 
>>>>> have
>>>>> no concern for their country or their fellow man.  All they want is to 
>>>>> line
>>>>> their pockets and control people!  Call me rude if you like!  I haven't
>>>>> even cracked the door on the rudeness these people have done to all of us
>>>>> including many generations to follow us!  And,  while were at it, how 
>>>>> about
>>>>> all of those babies that will never have an opportunity to join us?  What 
>>>>> a
>>>>> sickening shame!  No, Travesty!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Haven't made my point yet Lewis.  But, saw enough of those that were
>>>>>> not in agreement with you in the thread to know that they don't believe 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> "Certain Inalienable Rights" with government here only to preserve those
>>>>>> rights, not impose someone else's stupidity on me.  And, that the libs 
>>>>>> want
>>>>>> someone else to take care of them all of the time.  To me, that's 
>>>>>> retarded
>>>>>> and just plain dumb.  Now that I look at those that have their crazy
>>>>>> position and compare that position to their past posts on here, I now
>>>>>> understand some of their past posts here!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am not about to let someone shoot me during a convenience store
>>>>>> holdup.  I will die with my 45 in hand before I let the bad guy take me 
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> anyone else easily.  Now, to shoot someone as he is driving away with my
>>>>>> dvd player as more libtardiness suggested,,,,  How dumb! To take a life
>>>>>> because someone is a thief???  That's just another liberal ploy adage to
>>>>>> try to make others believe that we shouldn't have those inalienable
>>>>>> rights.  Life is precious, things, not so much!  But my life is more
>>>>>> precious to me than to let someone else try to protect me from halfway
>>>>>> across the county (The Police)!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, to make my point about your comment "People assume you are out
>>>>>> of salient points to make."  No, I'm just trying to use a concise word 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> describes all the stupidity that today's liberals have stooped to.  and
>>>>>> libtard pretty much does that!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Lewis Bergman <
>>>>>> lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Come on now. Be civil. You only hurt your own argument when you
>>>>>>> resort to name calling. People assume you are out of salient points to 
>>>>>>> make.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2015, 1:09 PM Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Especially with all thee libtard views out there today!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 12:10 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>>>>>>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is also a great reminder that people in other parts of the
>>>>>>>>> country do not necessarily share your views.
>>>>>>>>> Also a great reminder that the founders of this country really did
>>>>>>>>> know what they were doing.
>>>>>>>>> For things to happen in this country you have to AGREE...which is
>>>>>>>>> becoming more and more difficult ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>>>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, October 10, 2015 11:40 AM
>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Guns etc
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This has been fun reading.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I love this list.  Folks are smart and mostly polite and post some
>>>>>>>>> pretty
>>>>>>>>> well reasoned arguments on both sides of almost any issue.  This
>>>>>>>>> is all the
>>>>>>>>> social media I need.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I did want to make a comment about the Illinois FOID card.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was a hostage in a bank robbery back in about 1993 in Quincy
>>>>>>>>> Illinois.
>>>>>>>>> Once it was over and I got out of the bank, I  learned that a
>>>>>>>>> co-worker had
>>>>>>>>> suffered some kind of stress attack and was in the hospital.  That
>>>>>>>>> afternoon
>>>>>>>>> they were out of beds in some of the areas so that took him to the
>>>>>>>>> 5th
>>>>>>>>> floor.  That is the psych floor.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Then, it turned out, anyone that gets admitted to a psych ward in
>>>>>>>>> Illinois
>>>>>>>>> gets reported to the FOID people.
>>>>>>>>> They revoke the FOID card.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This guy was a big time hunter.  It just about killed him.
>>>>>>>>> He got some pretty good press and got some political help.  Hot
>>>>>>>>> his card
>>>>>>>>> back in about 6 weeks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, if you want to keep your FOID stay out of psych wards!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Philip J. Rankin
>>>>>>>> Wireless Telecommunications Services
>>>>>>>> PO Box 24
>>>>>>>> Pittsburg, KS  66762
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Philip J. Rankin
>>>>>> Wireless Telecommunications Services
>>>>>> PO Box 24
>>>>>> Pittsburg, KS  66762
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Philip J. Rankin
>>>>> Wireless Telecommunications Services
>>>>> PO Box 24
>>>>> Pittsburg, KS  66762
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Philip J. Rankin
>>> Wireless Telecommunications Services
>>> PO Box 24
>>> Pittsburg, KS  66762
>>>
>>
>>
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> --
> Philip J. Rankin
> Wireless Telecommunications Services
> PO Box 24
> Pittsburg, KS  66762
>
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