...and drumroll... During Reagan's presidency, 240 Americans were killed in the Lebanon Marine barrack's bombing. His response? Did he go to war? No, he pulled out of Lebanon.
Now imagine the apoplexy that would ensue if this had happened under Obama and he cut and ran...The "Freedom Caucus" would be fomenting Red State riots demanding Obama turn the region into glass. It's truly annoying debating politics with people who have clearly fed themselves off pundit-prepared diet of myths and sound bites. Patrick Leary Patrick Leary Telrad On Oct 12, 2015 12:48 PM, Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com> wrote: After his presidency Reagan sent letters to Republican politicians urging them to support the assault rifle ban, which helped its passage in the early Clinton years. As president, Reagan famously enabled amnesty for millions of undocumented immigrants. As president, Reagan raised taxes (after he had cut them), and if course routinely supported raising the debt limit Most forgotten was that Reagan was an optimist and a fast friend of Dem House Speaker Tip O'Neill, with whom he worked in numerous compromises. What Reagan was not was a vicious ideologue or zealot who refused to even engage the opposition. Today's "Republicans" can't even be seen shaking the President's hand for fear the nihilists will primary them. Patrick Leary Patrick Leary Telrad On Oct 12, 2015 11:23 AM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: Reagan was a liberal early on in life but he definitely wasn’t a liberal by the time he ran for the Presidency and neither were his policies. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Leary Sent: Monday, October 12, 2015 8:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc Your vision of Reagan is of a cartoon character, devoid of reality, factually ignorant, and it vastly insults his memory. Were Reagan president today, you'd be calling him a "libtard." You are clearly under 40 years old. Patrick Leary Telrad On Oct 11, 2015 5:47 PM, Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com<mailto:wireless...@gmail.com>> wrote: Nixon was conservative, but with him trying to cover up his crooked tail, we never saw much of anything from him. He was truly ineffective. Ford and Bush?? Hahaha. Not conservative RINO. Reagan, a different story. He wasn't perfect, but in his heart he held conservatism high. There is only one way to preside and that is to work with the other side some. That's when he had to give up his far right position some Nixon is the only conservative that had any bearing on this country in the last 50 years. I should say conservative bearing! On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 4:29 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: Nixon Ford Reagan Bush... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com<mailto:wireless...@gmail.com>> wrote: Yes, one. On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: You know we've had conservative politicians and presidents in the last 50 years right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 11, 2015 3:52 PM, "Philip Rankin" <wireless...@gmail.com<mailto:wireless...@gmail.com>> wrote: Since many of you are calling me rude, how about we just reverse that logic??? How about all of the damage the liberal logic has done to this country in the past say 50 years???? Is that not rude? You know, actually it's so far beyond rude, that we can't measure it anymore. Start with the debt, the credit ratings of the country, the backdoor payoff deals, the stupidity of laws that cover laws that should not have ever been written in the first place. Or, the stupid recent healthcare law that the majority of the population don't want because we were lied to about it. And then the RINOs bailing out their favorite companies after they got their kickbacks? And this isn't even the tip of the iceberg. It's all liberal stupidity. Notice I didn't say Democrat or Republican? It's libtards! These folk have no concern for their country or their fellow man. All they want is to line their pockets and control people! Call me rude if you like! I haven't even cracked the door on the rudeness these people have done to all of us including many generations to follow us! And, while were at it, how about all of those babies that will never have an opportunity to join us? What a sickening shame! No, Travesty! On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com<mailto:wireless...@gmail.com>> wrote: Haven't made my point yet Lewis. But, saw enough of those that were not in agreement with you in the thread to know that they don't believe in "Certain Inalienable Rights" with government here only to preserve those rights, not impose someone else's stupidity on me. And, that the libs want someone else to take care of them all of the time. To me, that's retarded and just plain dumb. Now that I look at those that have their crazy position and compare that position to their past posts on here, I now understand some of their past posts here! I am not about to let someone shoot me during a convenience store holdup. I will die with my 45 in hand before I let the bad guy take me or anyone else easily. Now, to shoot someone as he is driving away with my dvd player as more libtardiness suggested,,,, How dumb! To take a life because someone is a thief??? That's just another liberal ploy adage to try to make others believe that we shouldn't have those inalienable rights. Life is precious, things, not so much! But my life is more precious to me than to let someone else try to protect me from halfway across the county (The Police)! So, to make my point about your comment "People assume you are out of salient points to make." No, I'm just trying to use a concise word that describes all the stupidity that today's liberals have stooped to. and libtard pretty much does that! On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:40 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote: Come on now. Be civil. You only hurt your own argument when you resort to name calling. People assume you are out of salient points to make. On Sun, Oct 11, 2015, 1:09 PM Philip Rankin <wireless...@gmail.com<mailto:wireless...@gmail.com>> wrote: Especially with all thee libtard views out there today! On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 12:10 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller <par...@cyberbroadband.net<mailto:par...@cyberbroadband.net>> wrote: It is also a great reminder that people in other parts of the country do not necessarily share your views. Also a great reminder that the founders of this country really did know what they were doing. For things to happen in this country you have to AGREE...which is becoming more and more difficult ;) ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck McCown<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 11:40 AM Subject: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc This has been fun reading. I love this list. Folks are smart and mostly polite and post some pretty well reasoned arguments on both sides of almost any issue. This is all the social media I need. I did want to make a comment about the Illinois FOID card. I was a hostage in a bank robbery back in about 1993 in Quincy Illinois. Once it was over and I got out of the bank, I learned that a co-worker had suffered some kind of stress attack and was in the hospital. That afternoon they were out of beds in some of the areas so that took him to the 5th floor. That is the psych floor. Then, it turned out, anyone that gets admitted to a psych ward in Illinois gets reported to the FOID people. They revoke the FOID card. This guy was a big time hunter. It just about killed him. He got some pretty good press and got some political help. Hot his card back in about 6 weeks. So, if you want to keep your FOID stay out of psych wards! -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762 -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762 -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762 -- Philip J. Rankin Wireless Telecommunications Services PO Box 24 Pittsburg, KS 66762 -- Philip J. 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