My fiance was born in the Philippines and she learned English (in addition to 
their local language and their national language) in school. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

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From: "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]> 
To: "Animal Farm" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 10:13:07 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 wireless APs on bridged Mikrotik ports 


English is considered the business language in Far East and many parts of the 
world. My friend Eric Lee speaks it like a Brit as do most of my buddies from 
India....kind of cool 
Jaime Solorza 
On Oct 22, 2015 9:08 AM, "Josh Luthman" < [email protected] > wrote: 



Chinese is more popular than English and Spanish combined... 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Jaime Solorza < [email protected] > 
wrote: 

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I am universal ...my circle of friends span the globe and on weekends other 
realms...world too small to only speak 'merican.....😎 
Jaime Solorza 
On Oct 22, 2015 8:56 AM, "Josh Luthman" < [email protected] > wrote: 

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Uhm...'merica! 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 



On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Jaime Solorza < [email protected] > 
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doesn't speak pachuco ese Holmes? Just Spanish...boring 




Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect 
915-861-1390 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Josh Luthman < [email protected] > 
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I think you can change your language dictionary on the fly with Android. 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Jaime Solorza < [email protected] > 
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agreed smartphones seem to think they are smarter than us....and for those of 
us that write in several languages its worse.....pinchi telefono chafa 




Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect 
915-861-1390 



On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Ken Hohhof < [email protected] > wrote: 

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Usually you can decipher what was intended before mangling by auto correct, but 
“Bethesda” has me stumped. 




From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 8:55 AM 
To: Animal Farm 


Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 wireless APs on bridged Mikrotik ports 




OK. That auto correct is just pitiful. I am really going to have to stop 
sending mail to this list on my phone. I am obviously not qualified to do so. 




On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Paul McCall < [email protected] > wrote: 

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Having not Used UniFi, does it do a clean job of this? …. Switching between APs 
as needed and keeping it all straight MAC table wise? 

From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:41 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 wireless APs on bridged Mikrotik ports 

Sorry Ken. I summer you don't have 2 Bethesda in house to set it up in a lab. I 
would think shortening the time is your best bet. Now how short.... No idea. 
ARP traffic is tiny so I can't imagine that causing an issue. Maybe a cpu issue 
on all sides trying to keep up with them? 



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That was Ken's :) 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Oct 22, 2015 9:37 AM, "Paul McCall" < [email protected] > wrote: 


+1 on Josh’s suggestions 

From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:27 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 wireless APs on bridged Mikrotik ports 

Nope, you already have my suggestion. 
Can you try your idea of a 10s timeout? 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Oct 22, 2015 12:28 AM, "Ken Hohhof" < [email protected] > wrote: 




There are 4 SSIDs. But customer has each device “join” each SSID. I expected 
the devices to pick one SSID and stay with it down to 1 bar, but they seem very 
fickle. 



Or are you saying make all the SSIDs the same? I don’t think it matters, there 
are 4 wireless networks, even if they are all named the same. 






From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:03 PM 

To: [email protected] 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 wireless APs on bridged Mikrotik ports 



Why not do 4 SSIDs? Add the profiles once and then done. 
I think your issue is probably the APs, not the bridge/switch part but it 
doesn't really help. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Oct 21, 2015 11:59 PM, "Ken Hohhof" < [email protected] > wrote: 
I have a customer who insisted he needed 2 dual band wireless APs 25 feet apart 
in his ranch house. So we have a managed non-WiFi Mikrotik RB2011 in his 
basement, feeding two Netgear routers in wireless AP mode. I have the LAN ports 
bridged rather than using the switch chips, since there's plenty of CPU power 
and it gives more visibility into the traffic. 

So counting 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz, the customer has 4 SSIDs and I think his devices 
like iPads are jumping back and forth between networks. And I think bad things 
are happening because the bridging table can't keep track of which port the 
clients are on. I see weird things like the same amount of traffic going out 
the ports to both wireless APs. I never see a MAC address on both bridge ports, 
but it is acting like the Mikrotik is flooding traffic to both ports. 

Should I be tweaking parameters like reducing the ageing time below the default 
5 minutes? Should I be using the switch chips and not bridging? 

Is this a typical problem when devices can choose between multiple APs close 
together on the same bridged LAN? 


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Lewis Bergman 
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