Hey Jaime, check out my new favorite web comic, Breaking Cat News.  The cats in 
the apartment upstairs speak Spanish.  Like the Univision of Cat News.  Makes 
it tough for Lupin who is deaf and has to read whiskers.  Luckily Tabitha is 
multilingual.  Tabitha has even caught the red dot!

www.breakingcatnews.com
or to binge read, I have an archive here:
www.kwisp.com/breakingcatnews


From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 10:16 AM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 wireless APs on bridged Mikrotik ports

Because English is the best language 

*run away*


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:13 AM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> 
wrote:

  English is considered the business language in Far East and many parts of the 
world.   My friend Eric Lee speaks it like a Brit as do most of my buddies from 
India....kind of cool

  Jaime Solorza

  On Oct 22, 2015 9:08 AM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> wrote:

    Chinese is more popular than English and Spanish combined...


    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340
    Direct: 937-552-2343
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 11:06 AM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      I am universal ...my circle of friends span the globe and on weekends 
other realms...world too small to only speak 'merican.....😎

      Jaime Solorza

      On Oct 22, 2015 8:56 AM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

        Uhm...'merica!



        Josh Luthman
        Office: 937-552-2340
        Direct: 937-552-2343
        1100 Wayne St
        Suite 1337
        Troy, OH 45373


        On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Jaime Solorza 
<[email protected]> wrote:

          doesn't speak pachuco ese Holmes?  Just Spanish...boring


          Jaime Solorza 
          Wireless Systems Architect
          915-861-1390


          On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

            I think you can change your language dictionary on the fly with 
Android.



            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340
            Direct: 937-552-2343
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
            Troy, OH 45373


            On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Jaime Solorza 
<[email protected]> wrote:

              agreed smartphones seem to think they are smarter than us....and 
for those of us that write in several languages its worse.....pinchi telefono 
chafa 


              Jaime Solorza 
              Wireless Systems Architect
              915-861-1390


              On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                Usually you can decipher what was intended before mangling by 
auto correct, but “Bethesda” has me stumped.

                From: Lewis Bergman 
                Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 8:55 AM
                To: Animal Farm 
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 wireless APs on bridged Mikrotik ports

                OK. That auto correct is just pitiful. I am really going to 
have to stop sending mail to this list on my phone. I am obviously not 
qualified to do so.

                On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 8:52 AM, Paul McCall <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                  Having not Used UniFi, does it do a clean job of this?  …. 
Switching between APs as needed and keeping it all straight MAC table wise?



                  From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Lewis 
Bergman
                  Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:41 AM
                  To: [email protected]
                  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 wireless APs on bridged Mikrotik ports



                  Sorry Ken. I summer you don't have 2 Bethesda in house to set 
it up in a lab. I would think shortening the time is your best bet. Now how 
short.... No idea. ARP traffic is tiny so I can't imagine that causing an 
issue. Maybe a cpu issue on all sides trying to keep up with them?



                  On Thu, Oct 22, 2015, 8:38 AM Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]> wrote:

                    That was Ken's :)

                    Josh Luthman
                    Office: 937-552-2340
                    Direct: 937-552-2343
                    1100 Wayne St
                    Suite 1337
                    Troy, OH 45373

                    On Oct 22, 2015 9:37 AM, "Paul McCall" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                    +1 on Josh’s suggestions



                    From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh 
Luthman
                    Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2015 9:27 AM
                    To: [email protected]
                    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 wireless APs on bridged Mikrotik 
ports



                    Nope, you already have my suggestion.

                    Can you try your idea of a 10s timeout?

                    Josh Luthman
                    Office: 937-552-2340
                    Direct: 937-552-2343
                    1100 Wayne St
                    Suite 1337
                    Troy, OH 45373

                    On Oct 22, 2015 12:28 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                    There are 4 SSIDs.  But customer has each device “join” 
each SSID.  I expected the devices to pick one SSID and stay with it down to 1 
bar, but they seem very fickle.



                    Or are you saying make all the SSIDs the same?  I don’t 
think it matters, there are 4 wireless networks, even if they are all named the 
same.



                    From: Josh Luthman 

                    Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2015 11:03 PM

                    To: [email protected] 

                    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 2 wireless APs on bridged Mikrotik 
ports



                    Why not do 4 SSIDs?  Add the profiles once and then done.

                    I think your issue is probably the APs, not the 
bridge/switch part but it doesn't really help.

                    Josh Luthman
                    Office: 937-552-2340
                    Direct: 937-552-2343
                    1100 Wayne St
                    Suite 1337
                    Troy, OH 45373

                    On Oct 21, 2015 11:59 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> 
wrote:

                    I have a customer who insisted he needed 2 dual band 
wireless APs 25 feet apart in his ranch house.  So we have a managed non-WiFi 
Mikrotik RB2011 in his basement, feeding two Netgear routers in wireless AP 
mode.  I have the LAN ports bridged rather than using the switch chips, since 
there's plenty of CPU power and it gives more visibility into the traffic.

                    So counting 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz, the customer has 4 SSIDs and 
I think his devices like iPads are jumping back and forth between networks.  
And I think bad things are happening because the bridging table can't keep 
track of which port the clients are on.  I see weird things like the same 
amount of traffic going out the ports to both wireless APs.  I never see a MAC 
address on both bridge ports, but it is acting like the Mikrotik is flooding 
traffic to both ports.

                    Should I be tweaking parameters like reducing the ageing 
time below the default 5 minutes?  Should I be using the switch chips and not 
bridging?

                    Is this a typical problem when devices can choose between 
multiple APs close together on the same bridged LAN? 





                -- 

                Lewis Bergman 
                325-439-0533 Cell





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