So you spent $250 in fees, how much money are you saving by using ACH
instead of CC?


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On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote:

> I originally loved ACH, for the cost savings.  Now I have realized that it
> is the only way that a customer can defraud us with our current billing
> method.  They login and run an ACH on a delinquent account, get it turned
> back on automagically, and then it bounces, we add a fee, they repeat the
> process, we turn it off, add another fee, rinse, lather, repeat.  Finally
> we give up and go get the equipment and now we're out like $250.  Being a
> prepaid service we usually shut them off after 20 days and so that would be
> the most that anyone could possibly hit us for (20 days of service).  With
> checks they can bounce the install and then play the re-activation game for
> two months before we get frustrated and pull out.
>
> We have yet to start sending customers to collections.  For those of you
> that are, how does it work out?  Are the reclamation of these minor amounts
> worth the slanderous hate speech that is sure to come from that customer
> for life after you hit their credit?  We have been eating the cost, cutting
> ties, and moving on.
>
> As far as how we push them toward ACH, I simply explain how bad bill pay
> sucks.  It is like sending cash in the mail and it goes through a third
> party.  If they are late mailing it then service gets shut off, and late
> fees get added.  I also tell them that credit cards cost us more to process
> than checks.  I basically just tell them that we prefer ACH, but we will
> take anything.  I regularly question whether ACH is a good idea or not.  We
> have more problem customers on ACH than any other payment method.
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Our bank wants a $25/mo minimum fee for us to process ACH payments, so we
>> don’t accept ACH.  The per transaction fee is not bad, but the minimum is a
>> problem.
>>
>> *From:* Justin Wilson - MTIN <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 11, 2015 9:29 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Steer customers to ACH (vs CC)?
>>
>> Give them a discount.  Much of it depends on the bank. We had folks who
>> absolutely hated ACH because their bank would charge an overdraft if the
>> ACH failed.  They like the CC, even if it was a debit card, because if the
>> money wasn’t there it just declines it.  No $30 fee or whatever.   But, it
>> depends on the bank. This is what wasn’t attractive to us was banks treated
>> it different.  Credit card either runs or it doesn’t.  ACH typically is not
>> as smooth for a variety of reasons.
>>
>> Justin Wilson
>> [email protected]
>>
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>> On Nov 11, 2015, at 10:21 AM, Christopher Gray <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> For the people who accept both ACH and CC payments, do you do anything to
>> promote the use of ACH (to reduce your costs)?
>>
>> Thanks - Chris
>>
>>
>>
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