Yeah, that is strange.  Are these all LOS shots?  I can't get the M2 to go
through a single tree.  I think it is multipathing working to our advantage
because of the wider beamwidth.  We don't have near the amount of trees
that you have, but I have literally had to go back to every Nanobeam M2
install and swap them out because of service issues.

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Opposite here...
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Nov 15, 2015 10:16 AM, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I have not been impressed with the Nanobeam M2.  I see way better
>> performance to a M2 Nanostation and reflector.  The TX rate always suffers
>> (like the link you just put in).  This is in contrast to a M5 400 where I
>> see better performance than a M5 Nanostation and reflector.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I generally set them for whatever is the opposite that AP is on.
>>>
>>> They pretty much all come set auto out of the box and I won't find out
>>> someone got a new router until they complain about the speed or latency.
>>>
>>> Most of them we don't have any problems, but there are always a few.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 7:15 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>
>>> When we were doing 2.4GHz, we set all the routers in the houses to
>>> channel 6, no options.  Then we used 1 and 11 for outdoor.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Glen Waldrop
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:08 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've done some playing with the routers recently. I've noticed that auto
>>> almost always chooses the same channel that my customer's CPE is on.
>>>
>>> It appears that the router is looking for the lowest noise level,
>>> ignoring the fact that the 802.11 signal is strong, but isn't registered as
>>> noise.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> My working theory as to why *every* router on auto hits the channel that
>>> feeds my customers.
>>>
>>> I guess one hitch is I'm running 10MHz channels now, so realistically
>>> the routers shouldn't be able to see it, though I suppose the sub carriers
>>> are still the same.
>>>
>>> If anyone has any input that'd be awesome.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:08 PM
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Customer routers used to mostly default to WiFi channel 6, but now they
>>> typically are set by default to AUTO and in many cases to use an extension
>>> channel, so 6+11 or 1+6.  We try to change the customer’s router to a fixed
>>> 20 MHz channel on channel 6, then we avoid using the middle of the band for
>>> our APs.  If your CPE setup is such that customers can hook up a new router
>>> and it just works, over time they will migrate back to AUTO 20/40 MHz.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, actually we avoid using 2.4 GHz anymore, but that’s what we’ve done
>>> on our legacy 2.4 GHz sites.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:01 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I can't decide that for you. You really need to know what the noise is
>>> like at each sector. However, when I use 10 MHz channels, I try to take
>>> advantage of the fact that you're only using a 1/2 channel. You're goig to
>>> get better results (most of the time) when you're at the edges.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>>
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/14/2015 1:52 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
>>>
>>> Bill
>>> my other sectors at the same tower is on 6,9 should I go with 1 and 11
>>> with 10mhz?
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Bill Prince" mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>
>>> Get it off channel 7. Poke around at the sub end and see what else is on
>>> what channel. Typically, there will be less noise at channel 1 or 11. Most
>>> SOHO routers are going to be on channel 6, and putting your stuff on 7 will
>>> get local interference most of the time.
>>>
>>>
>>> bp
>>>
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>> On 11/14/2015 1:34 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh
>>> these stats are at the CPE and I even have the rf shields on the AP's
>>> and the ap's are up 150ft up the air. So it sounds like I am going have to
>>> probably switch it to 5ghz.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Josh Luthman" mailto:[email protected]
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:28 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>
>>> Looks like noise at the AP being my first thought. Assuming those stats
>>> are from the CPE.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2015 4:27 PM, "Tim Reichhart" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> The customer is wanting 8 meg but is only getting 3-4 meg there josh
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>
>>> What's the problem..?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340/>937-552-2340
>>> <http://tel:937-552-2340/>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343/>937-552-2343
>>> <http://tel:937-552-2343/>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Nov 14, 2015 4:20 PM, "Tim Reichhart" <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello Guys
>>> I just installed an powerbeam m2 today at customers house and I am
>>> getting:
>>>
>>> signal strength -61 dBm
>>> noise floor -89 dBm
>>> transmit CCQ 86.4%
>>> tx/rx rate is around 10-39mpbs/58.5-65mbps
>>> Channel width 10MHz
>>> Channel/Frequency 7/2442MHz
>>> Version v5.6.2 (XW)
>>> from the tower to CPE is around 3.5miles
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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