Doubt it.  Run an airview first to gather noise readings and then evaluate
frequency.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 15, 2015 10:59 AM, "Tim Reichhart" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> If I was able to put an rf armor shield on the customers CPE would it
> change anything. I also switch that one sector to channel 1 and I was able
> to drop it from -61 to -55 to -57 but its still flipping the rx/tx from
> 13-29mbps/65mpbs.
>
> Tim
>
> ------------------------------
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Date: 11/15/15 10:50 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>
> We do that at lower heights right next door, doubt that's your problem.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Nov 15, 2015 10:42 AM, "Tim Reichhart" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> from what google maps is showing 3-4 miles.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Date: 11/15/15 10:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>
>> At what distance?
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340>937-552-2340
>> <http://tel:937-552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343>937-552-2343
>> <http://tel:937-552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Tim Reichhart <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I think my issue is my customer little ways from an hill and there is
>>> tree in my way plus I am only 27 ft at customer house and my tower is 150ft.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Date: 11/15/15 10:20 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>
>>> 5 GHz for LOS.
>>>
>>> 2 GHz is nearly always through a couple trees or more.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340>937-552-2340
>>> <http://tel:937-552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343>937-552-2343
>>> <http://tel:937-552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Nov 15, 2015 10:19 AM, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, that is strange. Are these all LOS shots? I can't get the M2 to
>>>> go through a single tree. I think it is multipathing working to our
>>>> advantage because of the wider beamwidth. We don't have near the amount of
>>>> trees that you have, but I have literally had to go back to every Nanobeam
>>>> M2 install and swap them out because of service issues.
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Josh Luthman <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Opposite here...
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340>
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343>
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>  On Nov 15, 2015 10:16 AM, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have not been impressed with the Nanobeam M2. I see way better
>>>>>> performance to a M2 Nanostation and reflector. The TX rate always suffers
>>>>>> (like the link you just put in). This is in contrast to a M5 400 where I
>>>>>> see better performance than a M5 Nanostation and reflector.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Glen Waldrop <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I generally set them for whatever is the opposite that AP is on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They pretty much all come set auto out of the box and I won't find
>>>>>>> out someone got a new router until they complain about the speed or 
>>>>>>> latency.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Most of them we don't have any problems, but there are always a few.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>  *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>  *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>  *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 7:15 AM
>>>>>>>  *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When we were doing 2.4GHz, we set all the routers in the houses to
>>>>>>> channel 6, no options. Then we used 1 and 11 for outdoor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rory
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of* Glen Waldrop
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:08 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've done some playing with the routers recently. I've noticed that
>>>>>>> auto almost always chooses the same channel that my customer's CPE is 
>>>>>>> on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It appears that the router is looking for the lowest noise level,
>>>>>>> ignoring the fact that the 802.11 signal is strong, but isn't 
>>>>>>> registered as
>>>>>>> noise.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My working theory as to why *every* router on auto hits the channel
>>>>>>> that feeds my customers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess one hitch is I'm running 10MHz channels now, so
>>>>>>> realistically the routers shouldn't be able to see it, though I suppose 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> sub carriers are still the same.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If anyone has any input that'd be awesome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:08 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Customer routers used to mostly default to WiFi channel 6, but now
>>>>>>> they typically are set by default to AUTO and in many cases to use an
>>>>>>> extension channel, so 6+11 or 1+6. We try to change the customer's 
>>>>>>> router
>>>>>>> to a fixed 20 MHz channel on channel 6, then we avoid using the middle 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> the band for our APs. If your CPE setup is such that customers can hook 
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>> a new router and it just works, over time they will migrate back to AUTO
>>>>>>> 20/40 MHz.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, actually we avoid using 2.4 GHz anymore, but that's what we've
>>>>>>> done on our legacy 2.4 GHz sites.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:01 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can't decide that for you. You really need to know what the noise
>>>>>>> is like at each sector. However, when I use 10 MHz channels, I try to 
>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>> advantage of the fact that you're only using a 1/2 channel. You're goig 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> get better results (most of the time) when you're at the edges.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/14/2015 1:52 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill
>>>>>>> my other sectors at the same tower is on 6,9 should I go with 1 and
>>>>>>> 11 with 10mhz?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: "Bill Prince" mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:41 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Get it off channel 7. Poke around at the sub end and see what else
>>>>>>> is on what channel. Typically, there will be less noise at channel 1 or 
>>>>>>> 11.
>>>>>>> Most SOHO routers are going to be on channel 6, and putting your stuff 
>>>>>>> on 7
>>>>>>> will get local interference most of the time.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/14/2015 1:34 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh
>>>>>>> these stats are at the CPE and I even have the rf shields on the
>>>>>>> AP's and the ap's are up 150ft up the air. So it sounds like I am going
>>>>>>> have to probably switch it to 5ghz.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" mailto:[email protected]
>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:28 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks like noise at the AP being my first thought. Assuming those
>>>>>>> stats are from the CPE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340>937-552-2340
>>>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2340>
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343>937-552-2343
>>>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2343>
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2015 4:27 PM, "Tim Reichhart" <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The customer is wanting 8 meg but is only getting 3-4 meg there josh
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:25 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What's the problem..?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340/>937-552-2340
>>>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2340/>
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343/>937-552-2343
>>>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2343/>
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 14, 2015 4:20 PM, "Tim Reichhart" <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello Guys
>>>>>>> I just installed an powerbeam m2 today at customers house and I am
>>>>>>> getting:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> signal strength -61 dBm
>>>>>>> noise floor -89 dBm
>>>>>>> transmit CCQ 86.4%
>>>>>>> tx/rx rate is around 10-39mpbs/58.5-65mbps
>>>>>>> Channel width 10MHz
>>>>>>> Channel/Frequency 7/2442MHz
>>>>>>> Version v5.6.2 (XW)
>>>>>>> from the tower to CPE is around 3.5miles
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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