I have also suspected (based on experience) that routers on AUTO will perversely choose the worst frequency, for the same reason you cite. In our case it would be Canopy equipment so the router would see noise but no SSID. In your case, the 10 MHz channel would probably cause the same invisibility.
From: Glen Waldrop Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 7:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems I've done some playing with the routers recently. I've noticed that auto almost always chooses the same channel that my customer's CPE is on. It appears that the router is looking for the lowest noise level, ignoring the fact that the 802.11 signal is strong, but isn't registered as noise. My working theory as to why *every* router on auto hits the channel that feeds my customers. I guess one hitch is I'm running 10MHz channels now, so realistically the routers shouldn't be able to see it, though I suppose the sub carriers are still the same. If anyone has any input that'd be awesome. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Hohhof To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems Customer routers used to mostly default to WiFi channel 6, but now they typically are set by default to AUTO and in many cases to use an extension channel, so 6+11 or 1+6. We try to change the customer’s router to a fixed 20 MHz channel on channel 6, then we avoid using the middle of the band for our APs. If your CPE setup is such that customers can hook up a new router and it just works, over time they will migrate back to AUTO 20/40 MHz. OK, actually we avoid using 2.4 GHz anymore, but that’s what we’ve done on our legacy 2.4 GHz sites. From: Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems I can't decide that for you. You really need to know what the noise is like at each sector. However, when I use 10 MHz channels, I try to take advantage of the fact that you're only using a 1/2 channel. You're goig to get better results (most of the time) when you're at the edges. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 11/14/2015 1:52 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote: Bill my other sectors at the same tower is on 6,9 should I go with 1 and 11 with 10mhz? Tim -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: "Bill Prince" mailto:[email protected] To: [email protected] Date: 11/14/15 04:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems Get it off channel 7. Poke around at the sub end and see what else is on what channel. Typically, there will be less noise at channel 1 or 11. Most SOHO routers are going to be on channel 6, and putting your stuff on 7 will get local interference most of the time. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 11/14/2015 1:34 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote: Josh these stats are at the CPE and I even have the rf shields on the AP's and the ap's are up 150ft up the air. So it sounds like I am going have to probably switch it to 5ghz. Tim ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: "Josh Luthman" mailto:[email protected] To: [email protected] Date: 11/14/15 04:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems Looks like noise at the AP being my first thought. Assuming those stats are from the CPE. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 14, 2015 4:27 PM, "Tim Reichhart" <[email protected]> wrote: The customer is wanting 8 meg but is only getting 3-4 meg there josh ------------------------------------------------------------------ -----Original Message----- From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Date: 11/14/15 04:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems What's the problem..? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 14, 2015 4:20 PM, "Tim Reichhart" <[email protected]> wrote: Hello Guys I just installed an powerbeam m2 today at customers house and I am getting: signal strength -61 dBm noise floor -89 dBm transmit CCQ 86.4% tx/rx rate is around 10-39mpbs/58.5-65mbps Channel width 10MHz Channel/Frequency 7/2442MHz Version v5.6.2 (XW) from the tower to CPE is around 3.5miles Call Send SMS Call from mobile Add to Skype You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype Call Send SMS Call from mobile Add to Skype You'll need Skype CreditFree via Skype
