At what distance?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Tim Reichhart <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I think my issue is my customer little ways from an hill and there is tree
> in my way plus I am only 27 ft at customer house and my tower is 150ft.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
> To: [email protected]
> Date: 11/15/15 10:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>
> 5 GHz for LOS.
>
> 2 GHz is nearly always through a couple trees or more.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Nov 15, 2015 10:19 AM, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, that is strange. Are these all LOS shots? I can't get the M2 to go
>> through a single tree. I think it is multipathing working to our advantage
>> because of the wider beamwidth. We don't have near the amount of trees that
>> you have, but I have literally had to go back to every Nanobeam M2 install
>> and swap them out because of service issues.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 8:16 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Opposite here...
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>  On Nov 15, 2015 10:16 AM, "Jeremy" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have not been impressed with the Nanobeam M2. I see way better
>>>> performance to a M2 Nanostation and reflector. The TX rate always suffers
>>>> (like the link you just put in). This is in contrast to a M5 400 where I
>>>> see better performance than a M5 Nanostation and reflector.
>>>>
>>>>  On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 6:44 AM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I generally set them for whatever is the opposite that AP is on.
>>>>>
>>>>> They pretty much all come set auto out of the box and I won't find out
>>>>> someone got a new router until they complain about the speed or latency.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most of them we don't have any problems, but there are always a few.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>  *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>>>>>  *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>  *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 7:15 AM
>>>>>  *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>
>>>>> When we were doing 2.4GHz, we set all the routers in the houses to
>>>>> channel 6, no options. Then we used 1 and 11 for outdoor.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rory
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of* Glen Waldrop
>>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:08 AM
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've done some playing with the routers recently. I've noticed that
>>>>> auto almost always chooses the same channel that my customer's CPE is on.
>>>>>
>>>>> It appears that the router is looking for the lowest noise level,
>>>>> ignoring the fact that the 802.11 signal is strong, but isn't registered 
>>>>> as
>>>>> noise.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My working theory as to why *every* router on auto hits the channel
>>>>> that feeds my customers.
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess one hitch is I'm running 10MHz channels now, so realistically
>>>>> the routers shouldn't be able to see it, though I suppose the sub carriers
>>>>> are still the same.
>>>>>
>>>>> If anyone has any input that'd be awesome.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:08 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Customer routers used to mostly default to WiFi channel 6, but now
>>>>> they typically are set by default to AUTO and in many cases to use an
>>>>> extension channel, so 6+11 or 1+6. We try to change the customer's router
>>>>> to a fixed 20 MHz channel on channel 6, then we avoid using the middle of
>>>>> the band for our APs. If your CPE setup is such that customers can hook up
>>>>> a new router and it just works, over time they will migrate back to AUTO
>>>>> 20/40 MHz.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, actually we avoid using 2.4 GHz anymore, but that's what we've
>>>>> done on our legacy 2.4 GHz sites.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Bill Prince <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:01 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't decide that for you. You really need to know what the noise is
>>>>> like at each sector. However, when I use 10 MHz channels, I try to take
>>>>> advantage of the fact that you're only using a 1/2 channel. You're goig to
>>>>> get better results (most of the time) when you're at the edges.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>>
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/14/2015 1:52 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill
>>>>> my other sectors at the same tower is on 6,9 should I go with 1 and 11
>>>>> with 10mhz?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: "Bill Prince" mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:41 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>
>>>>> Get it off channel 7. Poke around at the sub end and see what else is
>>>>> on what channel. Typically, there will be less noise at channel 1 or 11.
>>>>> Most SOHO routers are going to be on channel 6, and putting your stuff on 
>>>>> 7
>>>>> will get local interference most of the time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>>
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/14/2015 1:34 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh
>>>>> these stats are at the CPE and I even have the rf shields on the AP's
>>>>> and the ap's are up 150ft up the air. So it sounds like I am going have to
>>>>> probably switch it to 5ghz.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" mailto:[email protected]
>>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:28 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks like noise at the AP being my first thought. Assuming those
>>>>> stats are from the CPE.
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340>937-552-2340
>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2340>
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343>937-552-2343
>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2343>
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 14, 2015 4:27 PM, "Tim Reichhart" <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> The customer is wanting 8 meg but is only getting 3-4 meg there josh
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>> Date: 11/14/15 04:25 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the problem..?
>>>>>
>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <http://tel:937-552-2340/>937-552-2340
>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2340/>
>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <http://tel:937-552-2343/>937-552-2343
>>>>> <http://tel:937-552-2343/>
>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 14, 2015 4:20 PM, "Tim Reichhart" <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Guys
>>>>> I just installed an powerbeam m2 today at customers house and I am
>>>>> getting:
>>>>>
>>>>> signal strength -61 dBm
>>>>> noise floor -89 dBm
>>>>> transmit CCQ 86.4%
>>>>> tx/rx rate is around 10-39mpbs/58.5-65mbps
>>>>> Channel width 10MHz
>>>>> Channel/Frequency 7/2442MHz
>>>>> Version v5.6.2 (XW)
>>>>> from the tower to CPE is around 3.5miles
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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