One of the flaws in most (if not all?) of the Atheros chip sets is that if it's not 802.11 and it's not 20 MHz, then it doesn't exist.

Anything built with Atheros seems to be very poor in detecting "interference" if it isn't something that it recognizes.

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 11/15/2015 5:08 AM, Glen Waldrop wrote:
I've done some playing with the routers recently. I've noticed that auto almost always chooses the same channel that my customer's CPE is on.

It appears that the router is looking for the lowest noise level, ignoring the fact that the 802.11 signal is strong, but isn't registered as noise. My working theory as to why *every* router on auto hits the channel that feeds my customers.

I guess one hitch is I'm running 10MHz channels now, so realistically the routers shouldn't be able to see it, though I suppose the sub carriers are still the same.

If anyone has any input that'd be awesome.

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Ken Hohhof <mailto:[email protected]>
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:08 PM
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems

    Customer routers used to mostly default to WiFi channel 6, but now
    they typically are set by default to AUTO and in many cases to use
    an extension channel, so 6+11 or 1+6.  We try to change the
    customer’s router to a fixed 20 MHz channel on channel 6, then we
    avoid using the middle of the band for our APs.  If your CPE setup
    is such that customers can hook up a new router and it just works,
    over time they will migrate back to AUTO 20/40 MHz.
    OK, actually we avoid using 2.4 GHz anymore, but that’s what we’ve
    done on our legacy 2.4 GHz sites.
    *From:* Bill Prince <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 4:01 PM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] link problems
    I can't decide that for you. You really need to know what the
    noise is like at each sector. However, when I use 10 MHz channels,
    I try to take advantage of the fact that you're only using a 1/2
    channel. You're goig to get better results (most of the time) when
    you're at the edges.

    bp
    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

    On 11/14/2015 1:52 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
    Bill
    my other sectors at the same tower is on 6,9 should I go with 1
    and 11 with 10mhz?

    Tim

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        -----Original Message-----
        From: "Bill Prince" mailto:[email protected]
        To: [email protected]
        Date: 11/14/15 04:41 PM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems

        Get it off channel 7. Poke around at the sub end and see what
        else is on what channel. Typically, there will be less noise
        at channel 1 or 11. Most SOHO routers are going to be on
        channel 6, and putting your stuff on 7 will get local
        interference most of the time.

        bp
        <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

        On 11/14/2015 1:34 PM, Tim Reichhart wrote:
        Josh
        these stats are at the CPE and I even have the rf shields on
        the AP's and the ap's are up 150ft up the air. So it sounds
        like I am going have to probably switch it to 5ghz.

        Tim

            
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            -----Original Message-----
            From: "Josh Luthman" mailto:[email protected]
            To: [email protected]
            Date: 11/14/15 04:28 PM
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems

            Looks like noise at the AP being my first thought.
            Assuming those stats are from the CPE.

            Josh Luthman
            Office: 937-552-2340937-552-2340
            Direct: 937-552-2343937-552-2343
            1100 Wayne St
            Suite 1337
            Troy, OH 45373

            On Nov 14, 2015 4:27 PM, "Tim Reichhart"
            <[email protected]
            <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                The customer is wanting 8 meg but is only getting
                3-4 meg there josh

                    
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                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
                    To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                    Date: 11/14/15 04:25 PM
                    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] link problems

                    What's the problem..?

                    Josh Luthman
                    Office: 937-552-2340
                    <http://tel:937-552-2340/>937-552-2340
                    <http://tel:937-552-2340/>
                    Direct: 937-552-2343
                    <http://tel:937-552-2343/>937-552-2343
                    <http://tel:937-552-2343/>
                    1100 Wayne St
                    Suite 1337
                    Troy, OH 45373

                    On Nov 14, 2015 4:20 PM, "Tim Reichhart"
                    <[email protected]> wrote:

                        Hello Guys
                        I just installed an powerbeam m2 today at
                        customers house and I am getting:

                        signal strength -61 dBm
                        noise floor -89 dBm
                        transmit CCQ 86.4%
                        tx/rx rate is around 10-39mpbs/58.5-65mbps
                        Channel width 10MHz
                        Channel/Frequency 7/2442MHz
                        Version v5.6.2 (XW)
                        from the tower to CPE is around 3.5miles





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