That get's to be a little in depth and probably a loaded question...but I
know when we moved to Powercode the old team that wasn't very good had it
done in one afternoon.  This was from Quickbooks.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
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On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> Are you including database conversion?  Items, customers, current
> balances, recurring billing, credit cards, etc.
>
> Then there’s setting up the online customer payment portal.  Especially if
> customers already had online accounts.  And you need to hook it into your
> merchant account, put your logo on it, test it, etc.
>
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 05, 2015 2:24 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Need new billing solution asap!!!
>
> I'm simply saying 2 days is a long time to setup a billing system.  For
> someone that wants it running "immediately" 2 days is a LONG time.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Philip Rankin <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey, I'm not in this for an argument.  I am just offering to help a guy
>> out if I can.  I'll bow out of this conversation.
>> On Dec 5, 2015 1:37 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Two days???  Powercode takes like an hour.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Philip Rankin <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Guys, I am still a major believer in Tucows Platypus.  Brett, I could
>>>> have you up and running with Plat in under 2 days as long as you can answer
>>>> speed and pricing questions as I ask them.  And all I would need is remote
>>>> access to a Windows 7 computer.  Let me know if you are interested.  Most
>>>> of the training can be done remotely in less than a day, too.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Simon Westlake <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I think it is still pretty early on.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/4/2015 6:22 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So I guess it does that...lol.  I wasn't really expecting it to be
>>>>> like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's not very baked ?  or am I missing something?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I meant for the admin side?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just guessing....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Drop down on top right, select signup/create account !
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Faisal Imtiaz
>>>>>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>>>>>>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>>>>>>> Miami, FL 33155
>>>>>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From: *"Chuck Hogg" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> *To: *[email protected]
>>>>>>> *Sent: *Friday, December 4, 2015 4:25:07 PM
>>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Need new billing solution asap!!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyone know how to login to his demo?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Simon Westlake <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://github.com/spencerlambert/wisp-central-control
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 12/4/2015 10:08 AM, Jeremy wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Isn't Spencer Lambert's web front-end free?  Last time I saw him at
>>>>>>>> Animal Farm he was touting it and said he would help with setup and
>>>>>>>> customization at a flat rate of $100/hr.  He is located in Utah, also. 
>>>>>>>>  If
>>>>>>>> you want something cheap or free that may be an option.  It would 
>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>> be worth contacting him.  I recommend Powercode.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Craig Schmaderer <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I've been looking at https://www.whmcs.com/
>>>>>>>>> I have a friend that uses it for his ventrillo voice business and
>>>>>>>>> it does auto billing and ticketing and is cheap.  I think you can get 
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> hosted solution if you don't want to install it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Craig schmaderer
>>>>>>>>> Skywave Wireless, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 7:41 AM -0800, "Brett A Mansfield" <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here is what I've always said about quality, cheap and fast.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You can only pick two. You will never have all three.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For this I need fast and quality. Cheap is relative in this case.
>>>>>>>>> I don't have a lot of customers so the $200/mo min that visp requires 
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>> about $100-150 too much for me. I'm fine with a reasonable one time 
>>>>>>>>> fee,
>>>>>>>>> but it must be reasonable.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I used to use waveapps to just invoice and then customers could
>>>>>>>>> pay using the invoice. But if they didn't get the email or lost it, 
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>> couldn't pay their bill.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I appreciate everyone's input on this. I think I'm going with
>>>>>>>>> platypus and pay someone to set it up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I like powercode, I just cannot justify the initial cost for my
>>>>>>>>> small size operation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Chris Fabien <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Good, cheap,  and fast? You know what they say about that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We are reasonably happy with Powercode. Few gripes but it has
>>>>>>>>> never double or triple charged our customers.
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 4, 2015 1:35 AM, "Brett A Mansfield" <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm looking for a good billing solution that is cheap and I can
>>>>>>>>>> have up in running immediately.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I've had far too many issues with my current billing system.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I need something turnkey and cheap. My WISP is a fairly small
>>>>>>>>>> operation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am not willing to pay per sub, especially if there is a minimum
>>>>>>>>>> like visp. I don't want to buy any new hardware. I looked at 
>>>>>>>>>> platypus, but
>>>>>>>>>> it cannot be deployed easily or quickly. I looked at powercode, but 
>>>>>>>>>> I don't
>>>>>>>>>> want to buy any new hardware.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is there anything out there that might fit my needs? Or should I
>>>>>>>>>> just go back to manual invoicing with quickbooks?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Simon Westlake
>>>>>>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>>>>>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>>>>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>>>>> Sonar Software Inc
>>>>>>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Simon Westlake
>>>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>>>>> Email: [email protected]
>>>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>>>>> ---------------------------
>>>>> Sonar Software Inc
>>>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Philip J. Rankin
>>>> Wireless Telecommunications Services
>>>> PO Box 24
>>>> Pittsburg, KS  66762
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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