Yah, Wave isn’t an ISP billing system but with API access a good FreeRADIUS server and some integration code it might make a good component of an ISP billing system.
Sincerely, Joshaven Potter MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA Google Hangouts: [email protected] Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 [email protected] > On Dec 7, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Brett A Mansfield <[email protected]> > wrote: > > It's funny you mentioned waveapps. That is what I started out with. It was a > disaster. And the fact they don't allow multiple email addresses for > recurring invoices was a major deal breaker for me. > > I've since moved to UBNTs airCRM. It is an excellent setup on paper, but is > seriously lacking currently and is very erratic. I need something solid, > secure, and that I don't have to worry about all the time. > > Thank you, > Brett A Mansfield > > On Dec 7, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Joshaven Mailing Lists <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >> Plat has excellent support >> >> In my opinion, the problems with plat are: >> 1) The user interface is a pain in the butt and generally discouraging. >> 2) The software depends on a Windows platform and even worse direct >> database connections from the client. >> >> 1) In most places when you want to alter something like customer data you >> have to click on the field to edit from a table and then go to the top to >> make the change in something that is like an address bar… of course you can >> get used to this but Plat is full of non-user friendly quirks like this. It >> reminds me of what it feels like to go back and use Windows 95 or Windows >> 3.1 when I am used to modern operating systems. The system feels almost >> like directly editing a database except that the software does enforce >> logical edits so it is not nearly as dangerous as direct database >> minupulation. >> >> 2) If you want to run a good highly available platform then you will be >> spending a lot on software licensing with Microsoft. What is the going rate >> for a MSSQL cluster now of days? Of course you can throw this on old rusty >> crusty in a closet and run the free version of MSSQL but we are carriers not >> hacks right? Also you are depending on ODBC database connections between >> your clients and the server. Opening direct database connections to my >> billing server gives me the creeps even if it is only open to a network >> under my administration. I’m a fan of local host db access only except for >> database peers. I would really like to see ISP billing software be web >> based using standard https protocols and having no client side dependencies >> like odbc configurations and client executables. Try using Plat on a >> tablet… I don’t want my billing platform holding back my ability to >> creatively design my installation process… >> >> >> I feel like I am ragging on Plat… maybe I am a bit but I want to underscore >> their support. They are truly exceptional to work with and you can rely on >> their platform. Just don’t expect to enjoy using it. If you like function >> over form then you may be a perfect match for Plat… I just wish they would >> do some magic to address the above two complaints. >> >> My recommendation to them is to become database & OS agnostic (at least >> MySQL or MSSQL and run on Apache) and to make the client interface be 100% >> standards compliment browser based. I suspect if they don’t do this they >> will find themselves with a EOL product in the next few years. >> >> Right now there are really good options emerging like WaveApps. Wave offers >> free billing including credit card processing at fair rates. They don’t fit >> perfectly with an ISP (yet) but they are promising an API which means that a >> good solutions provider can crank out an integrations solution with Wave for >> front end billing. I am also super excited to see what Sonar has to offer. >> I hope their offer is solid and we have a glorious solution… >> >> At any rate I am waiting with bated breath to see where this lands over the >> next few months. >> >> Sincerely, >> Joshaven Potter >> MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, UACA >> Google Hangouts: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> >> >> >>> On Dec 7, 2015, at 9:47 AM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> I can setup Platypus for billing only in less than an hour, including >>> setting up plans/rates/services/importing customers. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Chuck >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> That get's to be a little in depth and probably a loaded question...but I >>> know when we moved to Powercode the old team that wasn't very good had it >>> done in one afternoon. This was from Quickbooks. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> Are you including database conversion? Items, customers, current balances, >>> recurring billing, credit cards, etc. >>> >>> Then there’s setting up the online customer payment portal. Especially if >>> customers already had online accounts. And you need to hook it into your >>> merchant account, put your logo on it, test it, etc. >>> >>> >>> From: Josh Luthman <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2015 2:24 PM >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Need new billing solution asap!!! >>> >>> I'm simply saying 2 days is a long time to setup a billing system. For >>> someone that wants it running "immediately" 2 days is a LONG time. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Philip Rankin <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> Hey, I'm not in this for an argument. I am just offering to help a guy out >>> if I can. I'll bow out of this conversation. >>> >>> On Dec 5, 2015 1:37 PM, "Josh Luthman" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> Two days??? Powercode takes like an hour. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 2:34 PM, Philip Rankin <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> Guys, I am still a major believer in Tucows Platypus. Brett, I could have >>> you up and running with Plat in under 2 days as long as you can answer >>> speed and pricing questions as I ask them. And all I would need is remote >>> access to a Windows 7 computer. Let me know if you are interested. Most >>> of the training can be done remotely in less than a day, too. >>> >>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2015 at 12:55 AM, Simon Westlake <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> I think it is still pretty early on. >>> >>> On 12/4/2015 6:22 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >>>> So I guess it does that...lol. I wasn't really expecting it to be like >>>> that. >>>> >>>> It's not very baked ? or am I missing something? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Chuck Hogg <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> I meant for the admin side? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> Just guessing.... >>>> >>>> Drop down on top right, select signup/create account ! >>>> >>>> :) >>>> >>>> Faisal Imtiaz >>>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>>> Miami, FL 33155 >>>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232> >>>> >>>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or Email: >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> >>>> From: "Chuck Hogg" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Friday, December 4, 2015 4:25:07 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Need new billing solution asap!!! >>>> Anyone know how to login to his demo? >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Chuck >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Simon Westlake <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> https://github.com/spencerlambert/wisp-central-control >>>> <https://github.com/spencerlambert/wisp-central-control> >>>> >>>> On 12/4/2015 10:08 AM, Jeremy wrote: >>>> Isn't Spencer Lambert's web front-end free? Last time I saw him at Animal >>>> Farm he was touting it and said he would help with setup and customization >>>> at a flat rate of $100/hr. He is located in Utah, also. If you want >>>> something cheap or free that may be an option. It would probably be worth >>>> contacting him. I recommend Powercode. >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Craig Schmaderer <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> I've been looking at https://www.whmcs.com/ <https://www.whmcs.com/> >>>> I have a friend that uses it for his ventrillo voice business and it does >>>> auto billing and ticketing and is cheap. I think you can get a hosted >>>> solution if you don't want to install it. >>>> >>>> Craig schmaderer >>>> Skywave Wireless, Inc. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 7:41 AM -0800, "Brett A Mansfield" >>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Here is what I've always said about quality, cheap and fast. >>>> >>>> You can only pick two. You will never have all three. >>>> >>>> For this I need fast and quality. Cheap is relative in this case. I don't >>>> have a lot of customers so the $200/mo min that visp requires is about >>>> $100-150 too much for me. I'm fine with a reasonable one time fee, but it >>>> must be reasonable. >>>> >>>> I used to use waveapps to just invoice and then customers could pay using >>>> the invoice. But if they didn't get the email or lost it, they couldn't >>>> pay their bill. >>>> >>>> I appreciate everyone's input on this. I think I'm going with platypus and >>>> pay someone to set it up. >>>> >>>> I like powercode, I just cannot justify the initial cost for my small size >>>> operation. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Brett A Mansfield >>>> >>>> On Dec 4, 2015, at 7:47 AM, Chris Fabien <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Good, cheap, and fast? You know what they say about that. >>>> >>>> We are reasonably happy with Powercode. Few gripes but it has never double >>>> or triple charged our customers. >>>> >>>> On Dec 4, 2015 1:35 AM, "Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> I'm looking for a good billing solution that is cheap and I can have up in >>>> running immediately. >>>> >>>> I've had far too many issues with my current billing system. >>>> >>>> I need something turnkey and cheap. My WISP is a fairly small operation. >>>> >>>> I am not willing to pay per sub, especially if there is a minimum like >>>> visp. I don't want to buy any new hardware. I looked at platypus, but it >>>> cannot be deployed easily or quickly. I looked at powercode, but I don't >>>> want to buy any new hardware. >>>> >>>> Is there anything out there that might fit my needs? Or should I just go >>>> back to manual invoicing with quickbooks? >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Brett A Mansfield >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Simon Westlake >>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar >>>> Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 <tel:%28702%29%20447-1247> >>>> --------------------------- >>>> Sonar Software Inc >>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >>>> https://sonar.software <https://sonar.software/> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Simon Westlake >>> Skype: Simon_Sonar >>> Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 <tel:%28702%29%20447-1247> >>> --------------------------- >>> Sonar Software Inc >>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >>> https://sonar.software <https://sonar.software/> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Philip J. Rankin >>> Wireless Telecommunications Services >>> PO Box 24 >>> Pittsburg, KS 66762 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>
