You should have had sex with her On Dec 11, 2015 11:13 AM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> In Illinois and perhaps in all jurisdictions, you are totally free to do > all the conduit and wiring you want as long as you don’t connect it at the > panel. I interpret this to mean you can connect it to circuit breakers > that are hanging free inside the panel. Then hire the electrician to > inspect and plug in the circuit breakers. > > I got into a huge pissing matching in Quincy Illinois with the manager of > a business incubator. She didn’t like me and didn’t want to cooperate with > me on anything. I needed more power for a wave solder machine. 208 3ph. > There was single phase 240 in the unit as well as a 480 3ph that ran > through all the units. I found a transformer and installed it and a three > phase panel. Ran the conduit and wiring to my machine and left the 480 tap > to the 480 bus just hanging out in the pull box. > > This woman called the local building inspectors and other authorities, I > had a shop full of bureaucrats. She smirked as she watched them look > everything over. But then as they broke their huddle, the told her that > un-energized electrical work is no different than hanging a piece of art on > the office wall. At that, my electrician (who had been tipped off and was > standing by), climbed the ladder, connected the 480 tap and away we went. > > You would have thought that would have been the end of it. She called the > architect that designed the building and complained that I was severely > overloading the electrical system of the building. The architect along > with a PE licensed electrical engineer paid me a visit with her in tow. I > drew the schematic of the 480 system in the building, show them a schedule > of loads and said “even if we started all machines in the building at the > exact same time, we still have 50% reserve building, it is impossible to > overload this with the current equipment”, at that comment that woman said > “ don’t say impossible, I have had licensed electricians look at this and > they said there is a problem. At that the PE gave her a tutorial on the > difference between a PE and an electrician, they pronounced my loads > healthy and left the building. > > She still stayed on my butt until I eventually moved out of the building. > > Long story to say, do all the wiring you want, just have the guy with the > license energize it. > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2015 10:42 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Basic electrical competency training > > Yeah, thats the problem I run into at elevators, they dont go by code. > Panels with 110 on one phase, 65 on another. I assume its caused by tying a > sub panel into a 3phase with a problematic motor > > Most of them have approved us doing the work. the 1200 dollar bill for an > electrician to run a 120 foot conduit circuit is what pushed this > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:28 AM, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote: > >> For the bigger outfits, we don't want the liability, so we pay their >> electrician. And usually everything has to be in rigid or aluminum. For the >> smaller guys, we ask how they want it done. Most of the time they don't >> care, so we just do it and follow code. You have to keep in mind that >> you're going to run into lots of 3-phase, possible weird configurations and >> sub panels all over the place. >> >> >> On 12/11/2015 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: >> >> Without getting into the licensing details >> Im getting more freedom to touch the service side at our sites >> Im a really handy home wiring guy, overly cautious >> >> In illinois or online, does anybody know of a basic competency program >> for electrical? If I was going to do a full training, id tell my boss to >> punch sand and go be a union electrician, so im not looking at that. >> >> Liability may not allow for a program like this to exist, I just dont >> want to blow a grain elevator up because I didnt know something (not overly >> concerned considering some of the wiring at the elevators we operate at) >> >> -- >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> >> >> > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >
