Sorry I started. Now can't get Nancy Culp out of my head . I need a beer assistant like Richard Rawlings On Dec 11, 2015 12:54 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:
> https://www.mikeholt.com/ > > > *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2015 1:18 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Basic electrical competency training > > well that escalated quickly > > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> You should have had sex with her >> On Dec 11, 2015 11:13 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> In Illinois and perhaps in all jurisdictions, you are totally free to do >>> all the conduit and wiring you want as long as you don’t connect it at the >>> panel. I interpret this to mean you can connect it to circuit breakers >>> that are hanging free inside the panel. Then hire the electrician to >>> inspect and plug in the circuit breakers. >>> >>> I got into a huge pissing matching in Quincy Illinois with the manager >>> of a business incubator. She didn’t like me and didn’t want to cooperate >>> with me on anything. I needed more power for a wave solder machine. 208 >>> 3ph. There was single phase 240 in the unit as well as a 480 3ph that ran >>> through all the units. I found a transformer and installed it and a three >>> phase panel. Ran the conduit and wiring to my machine and left the 480 tap >>> to the 480 bus just hanging out in the pull box. >>> >>> This woman called the local building inspectors and other authorities, I >>> had a shop full of bureaucrats. She smirked as she watched them look >>> everything over. But then as they broke their huddle, the told her that >>> un-energized electrical work is no different than hanging a piece of art on >>> the office wall. At that, my electrician (who had been tipped off and was >>> standing by), climbed the ladder, connected the 480 tap and away we went. >>> >>> You would have thought that would have been the end of it. She called >>> the architect that designed the building and complained that I was severely >>> overloading the electrical system of the building. The architect along >>> with a PE licensed electrical engineer paid me a visit with her in tow. I >>> drew the schematic of the 480 system in the building, show them a schedule >>> of loads and said “even if we started all machines in the building at the >>> exact same time, we still have 50% reserve building, it is impossible to >>> overload this with the current equipment”, at that comment that woman said >>> “ don’t say impossible, I have had licensed electricians look at this and >>> they said there is a problem. At that the PE gave her a tutorial on the >>> difference between a PE and an electrician, they pronounced my loads >>> healthy and left the building. >>> >>> She still stayed on my butt until I eventually moved out of the >>> building. >>> >>> Long story to say, do all the wiring you want, just have the guy with >>> the license energize it. >>> >>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2015 10:42 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Basic electrical competency training >>> >>> Yeah, thats the problem I run into at elevators, they dont go by code. >>> Panels with 110 on one phase, 65 on another. I assume its caused by tying a >>> sub panel into a 3phase with a problematic motor >>> >>> Most of them have approved us doing the work. the 1200 dollar bill for >>> an electrician to run a 120 foot conduit circuit is what pushed this >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:28 AM, George Skorup <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> For the bigger outfits, we don't want the liability, so we pay their >>>> electrician. And usually everything has to be in rigid or aluminum. For the >>>> smaller guys, we ask how they want it done. Most of the time they don't >>>> care, so we just do it and follow code. You have to keep in mind that >>>> you're going to run into lots of 3-phase, possible weird configurations and >>>> sub panels all over the place. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 12/11/2015 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: >>>> >>>> Without getting into the licensing details >>>> Im getting more freedom to touch the service side at our sites >>>> Im a really handy home wiring guy, overly cautious >>>> >>>> In illinois or online, does anybody know of a basic competency program >>>> for electrical? If I was going to do a full training, id tell my boss to >>>> punch sand and go be a union electrician, so im not looking at that. >>>> >>>> Liability may not allow for a program like this to exist, I just dont >>>> want to blow a grain elevator up because I didnt know something (not overly >>>> concerned considering some of the wiring at the elevators we operate at) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>> >> > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >
