well that escalated quickly
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 12:44 PM, Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> wrote: > You should have had sex with her > On Dec 11, 2015 11:13 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> In Illinois and perhaps in all jurisdictions, you are totally free to do >> all the conduit and wiring you want as long as you don’t connect it at the >> panel. I interpret this to mean you can connect it to circuit breakers >> that are hanging free inside the panel. Then hire the electrician to >> inspect and plug in the circuit breakers. >> >> I got into a huge pissing matching in Quincy Illinois with the manager of >> a business incubator. She didn’t like me and didn’t want to cooperate with >> me on anything. I needed more power for a wave solder machine. 208 3ph. >> There was single phase 240 in the unit as well as a 480 3ph that ran >> through all the units. I found a transformer and installed it and a three >> phase panel. Ran the conduit and wiring to my machine and left the 480 tap >> to the 480 bus just hanging out in the pull box. >> >> This woman called the local building inspectors and other authorities, I >> had a shop full of bureaucrats. She smirked as she watched them look >> everything over. But then as they broke their huddle, the told her that >> un-energized electrical work is no different than hanging a piece of art on >> the office wall. At that, my electrician (who had been tipped off and was >> standing by), climbed the ladder, connected the 480 tap and away we went. >> >> You would have thought that would have been the end of it. She called >> the architect that designed the building and complained that I was severely >> overloading the electrical system of the building. The architect along >> with a PE licensed electrical engineer paid me a visit with her in tow. I >> drew the schematic of the 480 system in the building, show them a schedule >> of loads and said “even if we started all machines in the building at the >> exact same time, we still have 50% reserve building, it is impossible to >> overload this with the current equipment”, at that comment that woman said >> “ don’t say impossible, I have had licensed electricians look at this and >> they said there is a problem. At that the PE gave her a tutorial on the >> difference between a PE and an electrician, they pronounced my loads >> healthy and left the building. >> >> She still stayed on my butt until I eventually moved out of the >> building. >> >> Long story to say, do all the wiring you want, just have the guy with the >> license energize it. >> >> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Friday, December 11, 2015 10:42 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Basic electrical competency training >> >> Yeah, thats the problem I run into at elevators, they dont go by code. >> Panels with 110 on one phase, 65 on another. I assume its caused by tying a >> sub panel into a 3phase with a problematic motor >> >> Most of them have approved us doing the work. the 1200 dollar bill for an >> electrician to run a 120 foot conduit circuit is what pushed this >> >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 11:28 AM, George Skorup <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> For the bigger outfits, we don't want the liability, so we pay their >>> electrician. And usually everything has to be in rigid or aluminum. For the >>> smaller guys, we ask how they want it done. Most of the time they don't >>> care, so we just do it and follow code. You have to keep in mind that >>> you're going to run into lots of 3-phase, possible weird configurations and >>> sub panels all over the place. >>> >>> >>> On 12/11/2015 11:15 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: >>> >>> Without getting into the licensing details >>> Im getting more freedom to touch the service side at our sites >>> Im a really handy home wiring guy, overly cautious >>> >>> In illinois or online, does anybody know of a basic competency program >>> for electrical? If I was going to do a full training, id tell my boss to >>> punch sand and go be a union electrician, so im not looking at that. >>> >>> Liability may not allow for a program like this to exist, I just dont >>> want to blow a grain elevator up because I didnt know something (not overly >>> concerned considering some of the wiring at the elevators we operate at) >>> >>> -- >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
