Is 7-11 years how long it takes to cash on out on a box of smokes and a slurpee?
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > even at 7-11 years, that isn't that unreasonable, since they should have > quite a bit longer life span than that... and you don't need any storage > with a grid-tie system. > > On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> Did you buy it wholesale and build it yourself? The average installation >> commercially or through any of the solar companies is 7-11 years. Also, >> what are you doing for storage? >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown >> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:43 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies >> >> >> >> I love my solar panels and the payback is about 4 years. >> >> >> >> From: Rory Conaway >> >> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 11:15 AM >> >> To: [email protected] >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies >> >> >> >> The two biggest problems with Wind Farms besides the eyesore (actually I >> think they look cool) is noise and bird deaths. Never been a fan of them >> though. >> >> >> >> Right now I’m against taxpayer subsidized solar for three reasons, the ROI >> is ridiculous, and better/cheaper technologies are right around the corner >> (100 times cheaper and ROI’s of months, not years), and there is no >> cost-effective storage medium that is going to last more than a few years >> (Lithium batteries are expensive and will fail within 3-8 years or at least >> be heavily degraded). When Perovskite panels come out with sodium batteries >> or one of several other technologies that don’t start degrading after 18 >> months, I’m onboard. >> >> >> >> As for people against technology that could better their lives. I’m more >> worried about the ones that won’t teach proven science for religious >> reasons. You can teach science and morality without ignoring the science. >> Tolerance of ignorance never a good thing. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard >> Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 9:58 AM >> To: af >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies >> >> >> >> As far as I can see all the crazy sucking the energy up and causing cancer >> type comments all came from two people (who were not council members)... who >> happen to share the same last name. >> >> It sounds like the reason they voted to reject it was because the >> residents didn't want it there... which is kind of the town council should >> be doing, whether their reasons for wanting it there are logical or not >> isn't entirely relevant. Most of the objections appear to have been that it >> would be an eyesore... on the other hand, if the majority of the residents >> did want it to happen, and the town council was just persuaded to turn it >> down because of a couple of nutcases ranting, they should (and probably >> will) be voted out in the next election. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Jay Weekley <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> I really didn't gather the full reason they banned the solar farm from the >> article. True, two citizens that made comments were nuts but you find that >> anywhere. >> >> Patrick Leary wrote: >> >> >> Even worse Rory, because then you have many people who claim to know the >> meaning of these labels but they are simply incorrect and are repeating >> sound bites, and/or misapply them as a matter of course, even in >> contradiction without a trace of irony. >> >> …e.g., “Obama is a follower of Reverend Wright!!!,” but is also a Kenyan >> born Muslim. >> >> Go figure. It’s the death of critical thinking in this country. It has >> spawned lots of ignorance. Did you know an elected city zoning board in >> Woodland, NC just banned a solar farm on the grounds that it would steal too >> much of the sun’s energy, thus putting photosynthesis of plants and crops at >> risk? Yeah, that just happened in the U.S.A….in 2015. >> >> >> http://www.roanoke-chowannewsherald.com/2015/12/08/woodland-rejects-solar-farm/ >> >> Patrick >> >> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway >> *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 8:32 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies >> >> I think that was misunderstood. My point was, regardless of the >> candidates, is that the vast majority of voters simply don’t know the facts, >> don’t care about the facts, and are not prepared to provide a vote that is >> based on research and education. I can ask 10 people what the Trans Pacific >> Partnership was about and 10 of them won’t have a clue. Show a picture of >> Biden to 10 people and I’d be surprised if 8 of them recognize him and his >> position in the government. Most of them don’t have any idea of our >> country’s history, could tell you the difference between Democracy, >> Socialism, and Communism, or even know who fought in World Wars, the Civil >> War, or even which side won. The fact is, even with all the resources >> available to the public today, the average voter is more ignorant today than >> in the past. The all know the Kardashians but few of them could name off >> their Senators or Congressman. This isn’t partisan, this is the state of >> our country today. Picking out supporters of any candidate for being >> ignorant is trite when the entire electorate is clueless. >> >> Rory >> >> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >> *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 6:19 PM >> *To:* Animal Farm >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies >> >> Not trying to offend anyone on list....I get kick out of all mayhem on >> news...but if you do get offended....I can only say. If the shoe >> fits...don't take it off. >> >> On Dec 13, 2015 6:08 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> It's actually a sign of great intelligence to simultaneously hold two >> opposite opinions at the same time. >> >> bp >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >> >> On 12/13/2015 5:02 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: >> >> I think calling people ignorant because they support an opposing >> candidate is over simplification and pretty ignorant itself. >> Trump is appealing to the base fears and anger for a large number >> of people who believe nobody else is addressing th those concerns. >> I had to laugh today. I saw some consultant interviewing a bunch >> Trump supporters. Some lady said she didn't like Obama because he >> was arrogant and thought to much of himself. I thought, "wait a >> second. You are a trump supporter?" Doesn't Trump have nearly the >> entire market cornered on that trait? >> >> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015, 6:50 PM Jaime Solorza >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> And I like Mickey Mouse's voice much better compared to Cruz >> or Trumps... >> >> On Dec 13, 2015 5:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >> wrote: >> >> Lets fact check Rory....lol >> >> On Dec 13, 2015 5:03 PM, "Rory Conaway" >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Really, and Hillary supporters don’t even acknowledge she sold >> influence in that State Department for billions and took >> hundreds of millions for bogus speeches. All candidates have >> followers that really don’t know what’s going on so singling >> out Trump is bogus if you don’t add the voters who thought >> Obama was going to pay their mortgage (that was a real >> Einstein moment). With 90% of the people not even knowing who >> the vice-president is, you can always find idiots who will >> vote for Mickey Mouse if he said he was for some hot political >> topic. >> >> Rory >> >> *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >> *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 3:10 PM >> *To:* Animal Farm >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies >> >> The scary thing Stefan is not Trump as much as his >> followers...when they are interviewed it reminds how narrow >> minded they are...they think professional wrestling is real >> among other things but I might offend some on list... >> >> On Dec 13, 2015 2:26 PM, "Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I said foreign view :-). We have very different laws and >> thoughts on privacy. Our politicians are allowed to keep more >> privacy. In such a case the private emails would not be open >> to a broad audience. I did not say she followed US rules. >> >> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht -------- >> Von: Lewis Bergman <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> Datum: 13.12.2015 21:40 (GMT+01:00) >> An: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer >> viruses. >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by >> PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer >> viruses. >> >> ************************************************************************************ >> >> >> >> > >
