It may have started out that way, but it's become something entirely
different (ISIS).
On Dec 14, 2015 12:28 AM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote:

> You know Faisal, I partially agree with that.  We really don’t know how
> many people have been killed from random bombings and those definitely
> harbor bad feelings.  I’m not saying that taking out bad guys is a bad
> thing, but by abandoning all other military options and abandoning the
> countries we needed to help rebuild, we left a lot of open wounds.  A lot
> of the people that helped us in the Middle East felt abandoned.  We need a
> solid presence that stands as the wall people could lean on and count on.
> Instead, we left too many innocent people to die and became the country
> nobody could count on.  Then we snipe from the dark and kill innocents that
> never should have been in the line of fire to begin with.
>
>
>
> I will say this though, I’m not convinced ISIS is a political or religious
> movement as much as I think it’s a bunch of leftover military thugs from
> Sadam Hussein’s army who run ISIS just getting rich and using zealots to
> mask the operation.  The amount of money they have stolen is staggering.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 6:46 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies
>
>
>
> You are absolutely correct....
>
>
>
> Most folks don't how how much we have been molesting with other nations
> and their politics, until the crazy's show up and start killing people for
> no rhyme or reason !....
>
>
>
> Then suddenly everyone is acting surprised ? Politicians twisting the
> situation for their own benefit, saying anything, twisting facts as they
> will , asking ..... Why do they hate us ? why do they want to kill us ? and
> offering their own twisted answers ... etc etc...
>
>
>
> The answer from the other side is, see now you know how we have been
> feeling ? see how you have been messing with us, our families etc... !
>
>
>
> I do not condone such acts of violence for any reason... but how many of
> us realize with the daily bombings of Syria, drone attacks in Pakistan etc
> etc etc... are affecting the common people there who have nothing to do
> with the politics !.... The world is not becoming  a safer place for anyone
> with such actions...
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
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> *From: *"Rory Conaway" <[email protected]>
> *To: *[email protected]
> *Sent: *Sunday, December 13, 2015 8:32:14 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies
>
> I think that was misunderstood.  My point was, regardless of the
> candidates, is that the vast majority of voters simply don’t know the
> facts, don’t care about the facts, and are not prepared to provide a vote
> that is based on research and education.  I can ask 10 people what the
> Trans Pacific Partnership was about and 10 of them won’t have a clue.  Show
> a picture of Biden to 10 people and I’d be surprised if 8 of them recognize
> him and his position in the government.  Most of them don’t have any idea
> of our country’s history, could tell you the difference between Democracy,
> Socialism, and Communism, or even know who fought in World Wars, the Civil
> War, or even which side won.  The fact is, even with all the resources
> available to the public today, the average voter is more ignorant today
> than in the past.  The all know the Kardashians but few of them could name
> off their Senators or Congressman.  This isn’t partisan, this is the state
> of our country today.  Picking out supporters of any candidate for being
> ignorant is trite when the entire electorate is clueless.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 6:19 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies
>
>
>
> Not trying to offend anyone  on list....I get kick out of all mayhem on
> news...but if you do get offended....I can only say.   If the  shoe
> fits...don't take it off.
>
> On Dec 13, 2015 6:08 PM, "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> It's actually a sign of great intelligence to simultaneously hold two
> opposite opinions at the same time.
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
>
> On 12/13/2015 5:02 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>
> I think calling people ignorant because they support an opposing candidate
> is over simplification and pretty ignorant itself.
> Trump is appealing to the base fears and anger for a large number of
> people who believe nobody else is addressing th those concerns.
> I had to laugh today. I saw  some consultant interviewing a bunch Trump
> supporters. Some lady said she didn't like Obama because he was arrogant
> and thought to much of himself. I thought, "wait a second. You are a trump
> supporter?" Doesn't Trump have nearly the entire market cornered on that
> trait?
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015, 6:50 PM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> And I like  Mickey Mouse's voice much better compared to Cruz or Trumps...
>
> On Dec 13, 2015 5:44 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Lets fact check Rory....lol
>
> On Dec 13, 2015 5:03 PM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Really, and Hillary supporters don’t even acknowledge she sold influence
> in that State Department for billions and took hundreds of millions for
> bogus speeches.  All candidates have followers that really don’t know
> what’s going on so singling out Trump is bogus if you don’t add the voters
> who thought Obama was going to pay their mortgage (that was a real Einstein
> moment).  With 90% of the people not even knowing who the vice-president
> is, you can always find idiots who will vote for Mickey Mouse if he said he
> was for some hot political topic.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 13, 2015 3:10 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies
>
>
>
> The scary  thing Stefan is not Trump as much as his followers...when they
> are interviewed it reminds how narrow minded  they are...they think
> professional  wrestling is real among other things  but I might offend some
> on list...
>
> On Dec 13, 2015 2:26 PM, "Stefan Englhardt" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I said foreign view :-). We have very different laws and thoughts on
> privacy. Our politicians are allowed to keep more privacy. In such a case
> the private emails would not be open to a broad audience. I did not say she
> followed US rules.
>
> -------- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --------
> Von: Lewis Bergman <[email protected]>
> Datum: 13.12.2015 21:40 (GMT+01:00)
> An: [email protected]
> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies
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