+1 on the reasons for doing it From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 10:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz 450i availability ???
4 sector tower with the full price AP's and sectors will run you over $12,000. And your most likely only going to serve 15 customers off that setup in my area. The rest of the customers will be on some LOS freq. Hard to justify that tower cost with that few of customers using the 900mhz equipment. I never find the 900mhz equipment to be profitable. Your lucky to break even with it. But the reason I do it is to service the customers that have no other choice, I feel like I'm doing a community service. Plus it keeps another provider out by there not being a need for one to come into the area because everyone is being serviced by you. On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 8:02 AM, Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote: If they have the Lite-AP, we would be maybe 4x as many as not. I couldn’t justify that AP for small sectors. Most of our cells for 900 are less than 10 users these days, as we move as many off 900 to other things. II think others are in the same boat. I think they would rather get those type of customers sold than not. From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Colin Stanners Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 3:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz 450i availability ??? I doubt there will be a 900mhz 450 light-AP available.While we WISPs are always happy to save money, their main purpose in other bands from Cambium's POV is to better compete against the lower-user-and-PPS-handling-capability inexpensive APs from Ubiquiti etc. There is no good 900mhz competition so they can keep the price up. On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 1:11 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: Here’s what my admittedly flawed memory tells me. The pre orders won’t all be filled until January, although Cambium claims to be ramping up production. I am guessing they were very uncertain what the demand would be for this, since there was a fair amount of skepticism in the community. I will probably order a few more, but I don’t expect to get them for awhile. Normally we don’t do elective tower work this time of year, but the weather has been unusually mild. I think they said no Lite AP at least for now. Pricing should not be a secret. Here is MSRP to the best of my knowledge, it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to estimate street price. C009045A001A AP $2895 C009045C001A SM $299 N009045D001A 65 degree 13 dBi sector antenna $395 N009045D003A 12 dBi yagi $89 I don’t know why they describe the sector as 60 degree, it’s what would normally call a 90 degree. KPP told me they have some antennas in the works, but they seem to be waiting for feedback on whether this product will fly or flop before pulling the trigger on all the variations. I replaced a Til-tek 120 degree sector with the Cambium sector, and I forgot what a beast that Til-tek was, by comparison the Cambium sector is smaller and lighter but still big in comparison to the 3.65 and 5 GHz sectors we are used to. From: Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 12:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AFMUG] 900mhz 450i availability ??? What is the status on the 900mhz 450 hitting mass distributors? I know some people out there have some early pre-order units but is there some of this still floating around on a boat somewhere or something? Streakwave doesn't even have the 900mhz 450i listed on their website at all. Also more importantly, how good is the F/B ratio on the cambium sector in real life deployments? The sector looks like a KP on the PDF. Have they released any pricing publicly? Also will there be a lite AP for <10 subs at half cost of the full AP? This is very important because we need to have many sectors on a tower to get around the noise which means a lot less subs per AP.
