Also they chose to build it on the 450i platform at 450 prices.  I don’t know 
what this means for profit margins.  Maybe 450i costs a lot more to build than 
450, maybe it is actually a cost reduction, who knows.

If they aren’t making tons of money on the blades, they may not want to give 
the razors away.

On the other hand, they may feel they went out on a limb building this product 
when some WISPs were begging for it but many said 900 was dead to them.  So 
they have a unique product with uncertain volume.  If sales exceed modest 
expectations, they might feel better about bringing out a Lite AP.  They no 
doubt realize lots of 900 Lite APs would stay Lites.


From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2015 8:06 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz 450i availability ???

Well, yes, of course there is demand, it's more a question of if they think 
they can sell enough more of the lites to offset the difference. My opinion is 
that they probably would, but they may not agree... they also might just be 
waiting until the demand drops off some before they introduce a lite... 
afterall, if they're selling everything they can build at this point, it 
doesn't make much sense from their point of view to sell them cheaper.


On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Jon Langeler <[email protected]> wrote:

  It's the same hardware so of course there's demand for the lites. There's no 
disadvantage to upgrade the keys later. They just want to see if they can 
squeeze the most out of everyone at the beginning to maximize profit. 
Unfortunately it's why Cambium is Cambium and Ubiquiti is well, a lot bigger.


  Jon Langeler
  Michwave Technologies, Inc.

  On Dec 24, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:


    That isn't going to happen though... when I asked someone from Cambium 
about it, it sounded like they might consider doing a Lite AP later on. I'm 
guessing they'll do it if they see enough demand for it.  

    I don't anticipate that we'll be putting very many of these APs up at full 
price, but I would certainly consider them on a lot more of our towers if they 
release a Lite AP (assuming they work well).

    On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Jon Langeler <[email protected]> 
wrote:

      If everyone halts orders until they change their minds, I bet it would 
work. Cambium likes to nickel and dime. Success of the ISP isn't one of their 
concerns...


      Jon Langeler
      Michwave Technologies, Inc.

      On Dec 23, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote:


        Some distributors might have them, they are shipping... I got one from 
WAV last week. We haven't had time to put it up yet unfortunately, so I can't 
say how well they work.

        Last I heard there wasn't a LiteAP in the works, but hopefully that 
will change if we keep asking for it...


        On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Kurt Fankhauser 
<[email protected]> wrote:

          What is the status on the 900mhz 450 hitting mass distributors? I 
know some people out there have some early pre-order units but is there some of 
this still floating around on a boat somewhere or something? Streakwave doesn't 
even have the 900mhz 450i listed on their website at all. Also more 
importantly, how good is the F/B ratio on the cambium sector in real life 
deployments? The sector looks like a KP on the PDF. Have they released any 
pricing publicly? Also will there be a lite AP for <10 subs at half cost of the 
full AP? This is very important because we need to have many sectors on a tower 
to get around the noise which means a lot less subs per AP.


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