True... and the SMs are actually cheaper than 450 prices, unless you want 4mbps SMs. Even if 450i doesn't cost more to build, it is a brand new product, which means they're going to have to recover a lot more R&D costs than on something like 450 that's been out for a few years already.
That's also probably true... I know a lot of WISPs want nothing to do with 900mhz at this point, and I don't imagine they're going to buy any no matter what the price is, so it could end up being a pretty low volume product. On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 8:19 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > Also they chose to build it on the 450i platform at 450 prices. I don’t > know what this means for profit margins. Maybe 450i costs a lot more to > build than 450, maybe it is actually a cost reduction, who knows. > > If they aren’t making tons of money on the blades, they may not want to > give the razors away. > > On the other hand, they may feel they went out on a limb building this > product when some WISPs were begging for it but many said 900 was dead to > them. So they have a unique product with uncertain volume. If sales > exceed modest expectations, they might feel better about bringing out a > Lite AP. They no doubt realize lots of 900 Lite APs would stay Lites. > > > *From:* Mathew Howard <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, December 24, 2015 8:06 PM > *To:* af <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz 450i availability ??? > > Well, yes, of course there is demand, it's more a question of if they > think they can sell enough more of the lites to offset the difference. My > opinion is that they probably would, but they may not agree... they also > might just be waiting until the demand drops off some before they introduce > a lite... afterall, if they're selling everything they can build at this > point, it doesn't make much sense from their point of view to sell them > cheaper. > > On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Jon Langeler <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> It's the same hardware so of course there's demand for the lites. There's >> no disadvantage to upgrade the keys later. They just want to see if they >> can squeeze the most out of everyone at the beginning to maximize profit. >> Unfortunately it's why Cambium is Cambium and Ubiquiti is well, a lot >> bigger. >> >> Jon Langeler >> Michwave Technologies, Inc. >> >> On Dec 24, 2015, at 2:33 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> That isn't going to happen though... when I asked someone from Cambium >> about it, it sounded like they might consider doing a Lite AP later on. I'm >> guessing they'll do it if they see enough demand for it. >> >> I don't anticipate that we'll be putting very many of these APs up at >> full price, but I would certainly consider them on a lot more of our towers >> if they release a Lite AP (assuming they work well). >> >> On Thu, Dec 24, 2015 at 12:39 PM, Jon Langeler <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> If everyone halts orders until they change their minds, I bet it would >>> work. Cambium likes to nickel and dime. Success of the ISP isn't one of >>> their concerns... >>> >>> Jon Langeler >>> Michwave Technologies, Inc. >>> >>> On Dec 23, 2015, at 2:03 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Some distributors might have them, they are shipping... I got one from >>> WAV last week. We haven't had time to put it up yet unfortunately, so I >>> can't say how well they work. >>> Last I heard there wasn't a LiteAP in the works, but hopefully that will >>> change if we keep asking for it... >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Kurt Fankhauser < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> What is the status on the 900mhz 450 hitting mass distributors? I know >>>> some people out there have some early pre-order units but is there some of >>>> this still floating around on a boat somewhere or something? Streakwave >>>> doesn't even have the 900mhz 450i listed on their website at all. Also more >>>> importantly, how good is the F/B ratio on the cambium sector in real life >>>> deployments? The sector looks like a KP on the PDF. Have they released any >>>> pricing publicly? Also will there be a lite AP for <10 subs at half cost of >>>> the full AP? This is very important because we need to have many sectors on >>>> a tower to get around the noise which means a lot less subs per AP. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >
