At a minimum, it would move tens of millions of customers in the coverage area 
of the broadcast towers to OTA instead of retransmitted through the satellite. 
I'm sure at scale, their cost would be cheaper, but a $39 ChannelMaster yagi 
would probably work for most of the population. 

Heck, they wouldn't even have to follow through with it. Just threaten it for 
reduced rates. I'd imagine just the threat of moving however many millions of 
homes (for the big broadcasters) from their retransmission fees would be quite 
enough to settle for a rate decrease. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2016 10:13:28 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox pulls KASW from it's lineup 




That is a good idea. Put an F connector on the LNB that is designed to pull in 
UHF TV frequencies and transport it to the box. One extra antenna on top. No 
more local retransmission fees (assuming you can get the locals at a decent 
signal level). 




From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Sunday, February 07, 2016 7:04 AM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox pulls KASW from it's lineup 


What I think Chuck was going for was a way to receive them locally so you don't 
have to pay the retransmission fees. To expand upon that, I wonder about 
building the OTA into the dish. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]> 
To: "af" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 6:17:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox pulls KASW from it's lineup 


Yeah, they do retransmit them over the satellite as well, so most of the locals 
actually show up in the list twice. 



On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Chuck McCown < [email protected] > wrote: 






Can you get locals without the external antenna? 




From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 4:49 PM 
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cox pulls KASW from it's lineup 


My Dish Network box does that... there's a built in OTA receiver in the STB, 
and other than program information being missing for some of the sub channels, 
you don't really notice whether the channel is coming from satellite or OTA. 



On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Chuck McCown < [email protected] > wrote: 



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Used to be there were must carry rules for locals. Now it is reversed. 
I have seen these disputes many times over the past 10-15 years. 

I wonder about the economics of building an OTA circuit into the STB. Have the 
installer put up an antenna, wire it up and don’t pay the broadcasters. If it 
was clever enough the user would not even know. Include the locals in the OSD 
and DVR functionality... Hmmm, would work for IPTV systems too... 

Of course everyone cannot always receive all the local OTAs but most could. I 
wonder if you could pay the broadcasters only for the customers that needed 
cable/IPTV deliver of the signal... I guess you could create a non locals tier 
of service and try to put as many on it as possible. 




From: Rory Conaway 
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2016 3:16 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: [AFMUG] Cox pulls KASW from it's lineup 



KASW is a local channel in the Phoenix area. Apparently there is a dispute over 
the cost of rebroadcasting this local channel when renewing the contract. The 
reason that it’s interesting is they replaced the entire show with an 
explanation of how local channels get to charge for something the broadcast 
over the air for free. It looks like they are going on the offensive and 
something we need to be aware of it if we start looking at broadcasting IP TV. 

Rory Conaway • Triad Wireless • CEO 
4226 S. 37 th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040 
602-426-0542 
[email protected] 
www.triadwireless.net 

“The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort or 
convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge or controversy” – Martin 
Luther King 




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