Yup, the 2.4 bleeds like a mofo. Had 3 of them back to back on an rf
armor mount with rf armor on all of them. Was still rough.

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Josh Luthman
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Ubnt 2.4 is all we have right now that works.  It doesn't sync and man does
> that stuff bleed - RF armor didn't do very well and the KP sectors are
> better, but not enough IMO.  The best site we have is with several walls of
> brick and mortar that attenuate between the three APs.
>
>
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>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Jay Weekley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>>
>> What about Ubquiti 2.4 for those trees? Needing sync?
>>
>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
>>> Well here's my thoughts.  I'm currently using ePMP.  It does pretty well,
>>> but there's little to know nLOS functionality.  2400 MHz with ePMP gets
>>> scarred by even a few trees.  There are a lot of homes (maybe 20%) that we
>>> could hook up if we could burn through some trees.
>>>
>>> 20% more customers/revenue doesn't justify the expense of Telrad - this
>>> is with the assumption that Telrad would be able to burn through the trees
>>> at 3650.  Huge waste in capex if we don't get those extra customers unless
>>> we can really upsell customer's on higher bandwidth rates (I expect this to
>>> be minimal).
>>>
>>> If Baicells can offer the same (assumed) nLOS capability at a lower cost
>>> and I can hook up 20% more customers, the numbers could certainly work.
>>> More people are happy we can give them service and Imagine is happier to
>>> have the greater revenue (and a safe bet of higher ARPU).
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Are you looking for an upgrade for your current Chinese made gear for
>>>     different Chinese made gear? :P
>>>
>>>     On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>     wrote:
>>>     > I'd rather ask and know than assume and get it wrong.
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     > Josh Luthman
>>>     > Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>     > Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>     > 1100 Wayne St
>>>     > Suite 1337
>>>     > Troy, OH 45373
>>>     >
>>>     > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Josh Reynolds
>>> <[email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>     >>
>>>     >> I don't have an answer for you about Baicells, but I am curious
>>>     as to
>>>     >> why you asked this question. I have seen 0 movement by many big
>>>     >> companies over the past few years to focus on anything but LTE.
>>>     >>
>>>     >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman
>>>     >> <[email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>     >> > Let me ask it this way...
>>>     >> >
>>>     >> > Is Baicells future product line including only LTE products for
>>>     >> > different
>>>     >> > situations or are they looking at any other delivery MAC
>>>     (proprietary,
>>>     >> > Wimax, 802.11, etc.)
>>>     >> >
>>>     >> >
>>>     >> > Josh Luthman
>>>     >> > Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>     >> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>     >> > 1100 Wayne St
>>>     >> > Suite 1337
>>>     >> > Troy, OH 45373
>>>     >> >
>>>     >> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Adam Moffett
>>>     <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>     >> > wrote:
>>>     >> >>
>>>     >> >> Baicells is not actually selling anything at this point.
>>>     >> >>
>>>     >> >>
>>>     >> >> On 2/22/2016 4:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>     >> >>
>>>     >> >> Is Baicells selling only LTE products at this point?
>>>     >> >>
>>>     >> >>
>>>     >> >> Josh Luthman
>>>     >> >> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>     >> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>     >> >> 1100 Wayne St
>>>     >> >> Suite 1337
>>>     >> >> Troy, OH 45373
>>>     >> >>
>>>     >> >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Rick Harnish
>>>     >> >> <[email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Thank you Chuck!  I don’t officially start until March
>>>     1st.  Patrick
>>>     >> >>> is
>>>     >> >>> putting together a great team, including Boun Senekham,
>>>     myself and two
>>>     >> >>> others yet to be announced.  I am really looking forward to
>>>     talking to
>>>     >> >>> Wisps
>>>     >> >>> on a daily schedule again.  We think Baicells products will
>>>     be well
>>>     >> >>> received
>>>     >> >>> and we are excited to be working together to make sure our
>>>     clients are
>>>     >> >>> extremely satisfied.
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Below is a combination of two press releases that came out
>>>     last week.
>>>     >> >>> It
>>>     >> >>> was easier to combine the two as much of the material was
>>>     duplicated.
>>>     >> >>> My
>>>     >> >>> new email address should be set up in a few days and will be
>>>     >> >>> [email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>. Patrick’s is
>>>     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     >> >>> and
>>>     >> >>> Boun’s will be [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>.
>>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Make sure and visit our booth (215) at WISPAmerica.  Baicells
>>>     >> >>> Technologies is a Gold Sponsor.
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Patrick Leary, Rick Harnish & Boun Senekham Take on
>>>     Leadership Roles
>>>     >> >>> with
>>>     >> >>> Baicells North America
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Feb 17, 2016
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Dallas, TX, USA & Beijing, China – February 15, 2016 —Baicells
>>>     >> >>> Technologies, an emerging global provider of disruptive LTE
>>>     solutions
>>>     >> >>> founded by several of the telecom market’s top scientists and
>>>     >> >>> executives,
>>>     >> >>> today announced the launch of their North American
>>>     operations, also
>>>     >> >>> naming
>>>     >> >>> American wireless broadband veteran Patrick Leary to lead the
>>>     >> >>> subsidiary.
>>>     >> >>> Baicells, a 2015 Red Herring Top 100 Asia Winner, is focused
>>> on
>>>     >> >>> connecting
>>>     >> >>> the unconnected using cutting-edge and disruptively-valued LTE
>>>     >> >>> solutions.
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Less than two years old, Baicells’ technology is already
>>>     >> >>> network-accepted
>>>     >> >>> by one of the top mobile carriers in the world, and won a
>>>     small cell
>>>     >> >>> innovation award from a top U.S. based silicon maker.
>>> Baicells was
>>>     >> >>> founded
>>>     >> >>> by top telecom executives, including Chairman and CEO Sun
>>>     Lixin,
>>>     >> >>> formerly
>>>     >> >>> one of the “12 Fellows” of Huawei, a former chairman of the
>>>     ITU-R WP5D
>>>     >> >>> and a
>>>     >> >>> leading scientist for 3GPP.org, both global organizations
>>>     defining
>>>     >> >>> 4G/5g and
>>>     >> >>> LTE standards.
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> “We founded Baicells because we have a dream to be a
>>> disruptive
>>>     >> >>> player,
>>>     >> >>> including in North America, and few people have had a greater
>>>     >> >>> influence over
>>>     >> >>> the North American wireless broadband market than Patrick
>>>     Leary,”
>>>     >> >>> explained
>>>     >> >>> Mr. Sun Lixin. “Patrick shares our vision and our passion
>>>     to connect
>>>     >> >>> the
>>>     >> >>> unconnected, so this is a natural pairing for both Baicells
>>>     and Mr.
>>>     >> >>> Leary.
>>>     >> >>> We are excited for our future in North America.”
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> “My career’s mission has been to enable the entrepreneurs
>>>     bravely
>>>     >> >>> trying
>>>     >> >>> to solve the digital divide across the continent,” shared
>>>     Patrick
>>>     >> >>> Leary,
>>>     >> >>> President, Baicells, North America. “In Baicells, I’ve
>>>     found a company
>>>     >> >>> with
>>>     >> >>> the same passion, as well as the resources and drive to
>>>     disrupt the
>>>     >> >>> market
>>>     >> >>> with unique and right-priced LTE solutions. I’m honored to
>>>     join the
>>>     >> >>> esteemed
>>>     >> >>> leadership team at Baicells.”
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Baicells, an end-to-end LTE solution provider, has three
>>>     main product
>>>     >> >>> sets: Light4g, BroFi, and WeLTE, targeting small cells, rural
>>>     >> >>> broadband, and
>>>     >> >>> private LTE networks, respectively. We also develop our own
>>>     cloud core
>>>     >> >>> enhanced packet core (EPC) technologies, along with the
>>>     supporting QAM
>>>     >> >>> management and billing software tools. Our solutions support
>>>     >> >>> unlicensed
>>>     >> >>> spectrum, as well as the newly-created U.S. CBRS band, and
>>>     higher
>>>     >> >>> power 2.x
>>>     >> >>> and Canadian 3.x frequencies.
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Also joining the Baicells North America team is Mr. Rick
>>>     Harnish,
>>>     >> >>> formerly the Executive Director of WISPA, the Wireless
>>> Internet
>>>     >> >>> Service
>>>     >> >>> Providers’ Association, to the position of Director of WISP
>>>     Markets.
>>>     >> >>> Rick
>>>     >> >>> will lead penetration and customer management in this vital
>>>     market
>>>     >> >>> sector.
>>>     >> >>> Rick joins officially March 1.
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> During his tenure with WISPA, Mr. Harnish grew the
>>>     association from
>>>     >> >>> about
>>>     >> >>> 100 to 800 member companies. Over the course of this
>>>     period, WISPA
>>>     >> >>> established itself as the association of record for the
>>>     industry,
>>>     >> >>> leading
>>>     >> >>> its representation before Congress and the Federal
>>>     Communications
>>>     >> >>> Commission. “I’ve known Rick for many years,” said Patrick
>>>     Leary,
>>>     >> >>> President,
>>>     >> >>> Baicells North America. “Rick is pretty much ‘Mr. WISP’ and
>>>     he remains
>>>     >> >>> a
>>>     >> >>> much-loved figure in the WISP market. Baicells and our
>>>     customers will
>>>     >> >>> greatly benefit from his steady hand, and of course the
>>>     depth and
>>>     >> >>> breadth of
>>>     >> >>> his knowledge.”
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> “Life’s journey is filled with wonders and twists,” shared Mr.
>>>     >> >>> Harnish.
>>>     >> >>> “I love this community and Baicells will be a perfect
>>>     vehicle for me
>>>     >> >>> to take
>>>     >> >>> the next step to help build our industry. I hope my friends
>>>     throughout
>>>     >> >>> will
>>>     >> >>> welcome me to the commercial side of our industry, and will
>>>     be patient
>>>     >> >>> as I
>>>     >> >>> learn new things.”
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Additionally, Baicells is also happy to announce Mr. Boun
>>>     Senekham, a
>>>     >> >>> top
>>>     >> >>> wireless broadband sales executive and customer
>>>     relationship expert,
>>>     >> >>> has
>>>     >> >>> joined the Baicells North America team. The announcement
>>>     comes one day
>>>     >> >>> following the news that market veteran Patrick Leary will
>>>     lead the
>>>     >> >>> North
>>>     >> >>> American subsidiary. Boun (rhymes with “dune”) joins
>>>     officially March
>>>     >> >>> 1.
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> For the past 7 years, Boun has been a regional sales
>>>     manager for
>>>     >> >>> Double
>>>     >> >>> Radius, one of the leading value-added distributors in the
>>>     wireless
>>>     >> >>> market
>>>     >> >>> and where he consistently was among its top performers.
>>>     “Baicells will
>>>     >> >>> be
>>>     >> >>> built by professionals with reputations synonymous with
>>>     integrity and
>>>     >> >>> commitment,” noted Patrick. “We owe this to our partners in
>>>     China, who
>>>     >> >>> put
>>>     >> >>> so much faith in us, and we owe this especially to our future
>>>     >> >>> customers,
>>>     >> >>> whose businesses will depend upon our solutions. Ask anyone
>>>     who’s been
>>>     >> >>> around this space for a few years which salespeople they
>>>     trust the
>>>     >> >>> most, and
>>>     >> >>> Boun will be in that list.”
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> “This was not an easy decision for me,” commented Mr.
>>>     Senekham, “But
>>>     >> >>> I’m
>>>     >> >>> joining colleagues with such passion for our market they
>>>     consider this
>>>     >> >>> work
>>>     >> >>> a vocation, and combined with a parent company led by some
>>>     of the
>>>     >> >>> smartest
>>>     >> >>> people in LTE, this was the right move. I’m excited to
>>>     share Baicells
>>>     >> >>> with
>>>     >> >>> my contacts, and honored to be selected to build our sales
>>>     >> >>> organization.”
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> About Baicells
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Baicells is a privately-held, high tech company dedicated
>>>     in wireless
>>>     >> >>> broadband access solutions. Our main products and solutions
>>>     cover
>>>     >> >>> indoor and
>>>     >> >>> outdoor small cells, CPEs, antennas, etc. With the vision
>>>     to connect
>>>     >> >>> the
>>>     >> >>> unconnected, Baicells has introduced some real breakthrough
>>>     >> >>> technologies to
>>>     >> >>> the LTE system, like moving a complete LTE system to
>>> unlicensed
>>>     >> >>> spectrum and
>>>     >> >>> building it with an IT based architecture. With Baicells’
>>>     turnkey
>>>     >> >>> end-to-end
>>>     >> >>> solutions, it becomes much easier to provide wireless
>>>     internet within
>>>     >> >>> everyone's reach at a very low cost.
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Baicells' innovative solutions can be used by mobile
>>> operators,
>>>     >> >>> broadband
>>>     >> >>> access operators, cable operators, mobile virtual operators,
>>>     >> >>> governments and
>>>     >> >>> enterprise private networks.
>>>     (http://www.Baicells.com/en/index.jsp)
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Respectfully,
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Rick Harnish
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> 260-307-4000 <tel:260-307-4000> cell
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Skype: rick.harnish.
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Twitter: @rharnish
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>>>     >> >>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 3:26 PM
>>>     >> >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     >> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rick Harnish
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Well, Congrats Rick!  (a week late)
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> From: Jason McKemie
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 1:25 PM
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rick Harnish
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Yeah, there was an announcement last week.
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> On Monday, February 22, 2016, Chuck McCown <[email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>     >> >>>
>>>     >> >>> Did I miss this: Rick is at BaiCells now.
>>>     >> >>
>>>     >> >>
>>>     >> >>
>>>     >> >
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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