There is no airprism product for 2.4ghz... RF armor solves the problem of UBNT sectors having horrible F/B ratio, but I'm not convinced it does a whole lot of good beyond that... and just using the RF elements Rocket shields with a decent antenna always seemed more practical to me. But shielding only gets you so far... our biggest problem with UBNT 2.4ghz hasn't been local self interference so much as with the limited spectrum in 2.4ghz it's really hard to coordinate the channels on all of our towers so that they aren't stepping on eachother (basically impossible in a lot of areas, actually) - with sync, that problem would mostly go away... but there is no way to fix it without sync, or using a different band... or getting rid of half of our APs.
So far, we've only put up one ePMP 2.4ghz AP, but it doesn't seem to be doing too much differently nLOS than what I would've expected from UBNT gear... but we never had UBNT 2.4ghz there, so I can't really say how it compares... I need to try replacing one of our UBNT 2.4 APs with an ePMP so I can do more of a direct comparison. On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Dennis Burgess <[email protected]> wrote: > I was never sold on RF armor, while I do understand what it does, just > don’t' like the plastic box of the ubnt (even though that has changed in > some cases) and I don’t know if their Airprisim is working 100% ? if it > would be you would think that would be a non-issue. > > I heard that they were taking another stab at the GPS stuff, but no > confirmation if its working as it should or not. > > Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc. > [email protected] – 314-735-0270 x103 – www.linktechs.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds > Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 5:07 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rick Harnish > > Yup, the 2.4 bleeds like a mofo. Had 3 of them back to back on an rf armor > mount with rf armor on all of them. Was still rough. > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 5:00 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Ubnt 2.4 is all we have right now that works. It doesn't sync and man > > does that stuff bleed - RF armor didn't do very well and the KP > > sectors are better, but not enough IMO. The best site we have is with > > several walls of brick and mortar that attenuate between the three APs. > > > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Jay Weekley > > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> What about Ubquiti 2.4 for those trees? Needing sync? > >> > >> Josh Luthman wrote: > >>> > >>> Well here's my thoughts. I'm currently using ePMP. It does pretty > >>> well, but there's little to know nLOS functionality. 2400 MHz with > >>> ePMP gets scarred by even a few trees. There are a lot of homes > >>> (maybe 20%) that we could hook up if we could burn through some trees. > >>> > >>> 20% more customers/revenue doesn't justify the expense of Telrad - > >>> this is with the assumption that Telrad would be able to burn > >>> through the trees at 3650. Huge waste in capex if we don't get > >>> those extra customers unless we can really upsell customer's on > >>> higher bandwidth rates (I expect this to be minimal). > >>> > >>> If Baicells can offer the same (assumed) nLOS capability at a lower > >>> cost and I can hook up 20% more customers, the numbers could certainly > work. > >>> More people are happy we can give them service and Imagine is > >>> happier to have the greater revenue (and a safe bet of higher ARPU). > >>> > >>> > >>> Josh Luthman > >>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>> 1100 Wayne St > >>> Suite 1337 > >>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>> > >>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Are you looking for an upgrade for your current Chinese made gear > for > >>> different Chinese made gear? :P > >>> > >>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Josh Luthman > >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > I'd rather ask and know than assume and get it wrong. > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Josh Luthman > >>> > Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> > >>> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> > >>> > 1100 Wayne St > >>> > Suite 1337 > >>> > Troy, OH 45373 > >>> > > >>> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Josh Reynolds > >>> <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> I don't have an answer for you about Baicells, but I am curious > >>> as to > >>> >> why you asked this question. I have seen 0 movement by many big > >>> >> companies over the past few years to focus on anything but LTE. > >>> >> > >>> >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman > >>> >> <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> >> > Let me ask it this way... > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Is Baicells future product line including only LTE products > for > >>> >> > different > >>> >> > situations or are they looking at any other delivery MAC > >>> (proprietary, > >>> >> > Wimax, 802.11, etc.) > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > Josh Luthman > >>> >> > Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> > >>> >> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> > >>> >> > 1100 Wayne St > >>> >> > Suite 1337 > >>> >> > Troy, OH 45373 > >>> >> > > >>> >> > On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Adam Moffett > >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > >>> >> > wrote: > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Baicells is not actually selling anything at this point. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> On 2/22/2016 4:57 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Is Baicells selling only LTE products at this point? > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> Josh Luthman > >>> >> >> Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> > >>> >> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> > >>> >> >> 1100 Wayne St > >>> >> >> Suite 1337 > >>> >> >> Troy, OH 45373 > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Rick Harnish > >>> >> >> <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Thank you Chuck! I don’t officially start until March > >>> 1st. Patrick > >>> >> >>> is > >>> >> >>> putting together a great team, including Boun Senekham, > >>> myself and two > >>> >> >>> others yet to be announced. I am really looking forward to > >>> talking to > >>> >> >>> Wisps > >>> >> >>> on a daily schedule again. We think Baicells products will > >>> be well > >>> >> >>> received > >>> >> >>> and we are excited to be working together to make sure our > >>> clients are > >>> >> >>> extremely satisfied. > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Below is a combination of two press releases that came out > >>> last week. > >>> >> >>> It > >>> >> >>> was easier to combine the two as much of the material was > >>> duplicated. > >>> >> >>> My > >>> >> >>> new email address should be set up in a few days and will be > >>> >> >>> [email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>. Patrick’s is > >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> >> >>> and > >>> >> >>> Boun’s will be [email protected] <mailto:[email protected] > >. > >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Make sure and visit our booth (215) at WISPAmerica. > Baicells > >>> >> >>> Technologies is a Gold Sponsor. > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Patrick Leary, Rick Harnish & Boun Senekham Take on > >>> Leadership Roles > >>> >> >>> with > >>> >> >>> Baicells North America > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Feb 17, 2016 > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Dallas, TX, USA & Beijing, China – February 15, 2016 > —Baicells > >>> >> >>> Technologies, an emerging global provider of disruptive LTE > >>> solutions > >>> >> >>> founded by several of the telecom market’s top scientists > and > >>> >> >>> executives, > >>> >> >>> today announced the launch of their North American > >>> operations, also > >>> >> >>> naming > >>> >> >>> American wireless broadband veteran Patrick Leary to lead > the > >>> >> >>> subsidiary. > >>> >> >>> Baicells, a 2015 Red Herring Top 100 Asia Winner, is > >>> focused on > >>> >> >>> connecting > >>> >> >>> the unconnected using cutting-edge and disruptively-valued > LTE > >>> >> >>> solutions. > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Less than two years old, Baicells’ technology is already > >>> >> >>> network-accepted > >>> >> >>> by one of the top mobile carriers in the world, and won a > >>> small cell > >>> >> >>> innovation award from a top U.S. based silicon maker. > >>> Baicells was > >>> >> >>> founded > >>> >> >>> by top telecom executives, including Chairman and CEO Sun > >>> Lixin, > >>> >> >>> formerly > >>> >> >>> one of the “12 Fellows” of Huawei, a former chairman of the > >>> ITU-R WP5D > >>> >> >>> and a > >>> >> >>> leading scientist for 3GPP.org, both global organizations > >>> defining > >>> >> >>> 4G/5g and > >>> >> >>> LTE standards. > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> “We founded Baicells because we have a dream to be a > >>> disruptive > >>> >> >>> player, > >>> >> >>> including in North America, and few people have had a > greater > >>> >> >>> influence over > >>> >> >>> the North American wireless broadband market than Patrick > >>> Leary,” > >>> >> >>> explained > >>> >> >>> Mr. Sun Lixin. “Patrick shares our vision and our passion > >>> to connect > >>> >> >>> the > >>> >> >>> unconnected, so this is a natural pairing for both Baicells > >>> and Mr. > >>> >> >>> Leary. > >>> >> >>> We are excited for our future in North America.” > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> “My career’s mission has been to enable the entrepreneurs > >>> bravely > >>> >> >>> trying > >>> >> >>> to solve the digital divide across the continent,” shared > >>> Patrick > >>> >> >>> Leary, > >>> >> >>> President, Baicells, North America. “In Baicells, I’ve > >>> found a company > >>> >> >>> with > >>> >> >>> the same passion, as well as the resources and drive to > >>> disrupt the > >>> >> >>> market > >>> >> >>> with unique and right-priced LTE solutions. I’m honored to > >>> join the > >>> >> >>> esteemed > >>> >> >>> leadership team at Baicells.” > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Baicells, an end-to-end LTE solution provider, has three > >>> main product > >>> >> >>> sets: Light4g, BroFi, and WeLTE, targeting small cells, > rural > >>> >> >>> broadband, and > >>> >> >>> private LTE networks, respectively. We also develop our own > >>> cloud core > >>> >> >>> enhanced packet core (EPC) technologies, along with the > >>> supporting QAM > >>> >> >>> management and billing software tools. Our solutions support > >>> >> >>> unlicensed > >>> >> >>> spectrum, as well as the newly-created U.S. CBRS band, and > >>> higher > >>> >> >>> power 2.x > >>> >> >>> and Canadian 3.x frequencies. > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Also joining the Baicells North America team is Mr. Rick > >>> Harnish, > >>> >> >>> formerly the Executive Director of WISPA, the Wireless > >>> Internet > >>> >> >>> Service > >>> >> >>> Providers’ Association, to the position of Director of WISP > >>> Markets. > >>> >> >>> Rick > >>> >> >>> will lead penetration and customer management in this vital > >>> market > >>> >> >>> sector. > >>> >> >>> Rick joins officially March 1. > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> During his tenure with WISPA, Mr. Harnish grew the > >>> association from > >>> >> >>> about > >>> >> >>> 100 to 800 member companies. Over the course of this > >>> period, WISPA > >>> >> >>> established itself as the association of record for the > >>> industry, > >>> >> >>> leading > >>> >> >>> its representation before Congress and the Federal > >>> Communications > >>> >> >>> Commission. “I’ve known Rick for many years,” said Patrick > >>> Leary, > >>> >> >>> President, > >>> >> >>> Baicells North America. “Rick is pretty much ‘Mr. WISP’ and > >>> he remains > >>> >> >>> a > >>> >> >>> much-loved figure in the WISP market. Baicells and our > >>> customers will > >>> >> >>> greatly benefit from his steady hand, and of course the > >>> depth and > >>> >> >>> breadth of > >>> >> >>> his knowledge.” > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> “Life’s journey is filled with wonders and twists,” shared > Mr. > >>> >> >>> Harnish. > >>> >> >>> “I love this community and Baicells will be a perfect > >>> vehicle for me > >>> >> >>> to take > >>> >> >>> the next step to help build our industry. I hope my friends > >>> throughout > >>> >> >>> will > >>> >> >>> welcome me to the commercial side of our industry, and will > >>> be patient > >>> >> >>> as I > >>> >> >>> learn new things.” > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Additionally, Baicells is also happy to announce Mr. Boun > >>> Senekham, a > >>> >> >>> top > >>> >> >>> wireless broadband sales executive and customer > >>> relationship expert, > >>> >> >>> has > >>> >> >>> joined the Baicells North America team. The announcement > >>> comes one day > >>> >> >>> following the news that market veteran Patrick Leary will > >>> lead the > >>> >> >>> North > >>> >> >>> American subsidiary. Boun (rhymes with “dune”) joins > >>> officially March > >>> >> >>> 1. > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> For the past 7 years, Boun has been a regional sales > >>> manager for > >>> >> >>> Double > >>> >> >>> Radius, one of the leading value-added distributors in the > >>> wireless > >>> >> >>> market > >>> >> >>> and where he consistently was among its top performers. > >>> “Baicells will > >>> >> >>> be > >>> >> >>> built by professionals with reputations synonymous with > >>> integrity and > >>> >> >>> commitment,” noted Patrick. “We owe this to our partners in > >>> China, who > >>> >> >>> put > >>> >> >>> so much faith in us, and we owe this especially to our > future > >>> >> >>> customers, > >>> >> >>> whose businesses will depend upon our solutions. Ask anyone > >>> who’s been > >>> >> >>> around this space for a few years which salespeople they > >>> trust the > >>> >> >>> most, and > >>> >> >>> Boun will be in that list.” > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> “This was not an easy decision for me,” commented Mr. > >>> Senekham, “But > >>> >> >>> I’m > >>> >> >>> joining colleagues with such passion for our market they > >>> consider this > >>> >> >>> work > >>> >> >>> a vocation, and combined with a parent company led by some > >>> of the > >>> >> >>> smartest > >>> >> >>> people in LTE, this was the right move. I’m excited to > >>> share Baicells > >>> >> >>> with > >>> >> >>> my contacts, and honored to be selected to build our sales > >>> >> >>> organization.” > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> About Baicells > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Baicells is a privately-held, high tech company dedicated > >>> in wireless > >>> >> >>> broadband access solutions. Our main products and solutions > >>> cover > >>> >> >>> indoor and > >>> >> >>> outdoor small cells, CPEs, antennas, etc. With the vision > >>> to connect > >>> >> >>> the > >>> >> >>> unconnected, Baicells has introduced some real breakthrough > >>> >> >>> technologies to > >>> >> >>> the LTE system, like moving a complete LTE system to > >>> unlicensed > >>> >> >>> spectrum and > >>> >> >>> building it with an IT based architecture. With Baicells’ > >>> turnkey > >>> >> >>> end-to-end > >>> >> >>> solutions, it becomes much easier to provide wireless > >>> internet within > >>> >> >>> everyone's reach at a very low cost. > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Baicells' innovative solutions can be used by mobile > >>> operators, > >>> >> >>> broadband > >>> >> >>> access operators, cable operators, mobile virtual operators, > >>> >> >>> governments and > >>> >> >>> enterprise private networks. > >>> (http://www.Baicells.com/en/index.jsp) > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Respectfully, > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Rick Harnish > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> 260-307-4000 <tel:260-307-4000> cell > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Skype: rick.harnish. > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Twitter: @rharnish > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown > >>> >> >>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 3:26 PM > >>> >> >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rick Harnish > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Well, Congrats Rick! (a week late) > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> From: Jason McKemie > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Sent: Monday, February 22, 2016 1:25 PM > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rick Harnish > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Yeah, there was an announcement last week. > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> On Monday, February 22, 2016, Chuck McCown <[email protected] > >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> Did I miss this: Rick is at BaiCells now. > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> >> > >>> >> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >>> > >> > > >
