Seriously, no reseller will sell you just the 450d radome w/ the sub-reflector? I don't understand why Cambium would be hard assed about selling just the 450d radome kit. Refusing to sell something they make seems pretty stupid. The sub-reflector is just the front of the 110 wire suspended kit and snaps into the front of the radome, as I'm sure you're aware. If you wanted, you could rip off the suspenders. I've accidentally broken a few.

We haven't bought any 450d's yet. The antenna gain is calculated incorrectly, so the DFS band Tx power is like 10dB low, which means no worky for me. We're doing a lot of 5.4GHz now and we're not going to run the 14.1.2 beta builds in mass. So yeah, I'm just not going there yet.

We haven't done any PTP links without radomes for the past several years. It just makes sense. Not only for wind loading, but ice and heavy wet snow, which we're about to get here tomorrow damnit!

On 2/23/2016 9:03 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:

Yep you guys hit the nail on the head. It’s the radome for us. I just cant risk another drop due to ice / snow packing in a dish. I tried to drum up enough interest in Chucks condom but not enough jumped on board. I didn’t even get a response from Cambium when I asked about the 450d radomes becoming available. Although we did confirm they would fit / work. Kind of pissed me off since I was told a year ago at animal farm they would have one for the 110. Now they have it but won’t sell it.

I don’t mind having redundant links in place. Its been the plan since we started putting up the 110’s. When it became obvious that they were not going to give us radomes we backed off the install schedule for the second links. So now we have to deploy the 200’s to get the radomes but have to give up GPS. I should have just deployed the microtik dishes with Eptp and radomes to start. That was the plan before I was told the force 110 would have them.

Best regards

Brandon Yuchasz

GogebicRange.net

www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net/>

*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 8:41 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Force 200 Ptp distance

Wouldn't it be way cheaper and easier to use Chuck's condom radome?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Feb 23, 2016 9:38 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

We've been putting radomes on ALL of the Force200's.

Would be nice if they could come up with a sync-over-power variant of the 200.

..... or let us order the 450d radome w/ sub-reflector element. The Force110 and 450d is the same reflector.. and feed.

Just sayin.

On 2/23/2016 8:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

    Why go through the effort of replacing them?

    Josh Luthman
    Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
    Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
    1100 Wayne St
    Suite 1337
    Troy, OH 45373

    On Feb 23, 2016 9:31 PM, "Brandon Yuchasz" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Not exactly what you are asking but we have done a lot of 10 to 12
    mile links with the stock force 110 and got full modulation. I
    have not put up the force 200 yet but plan to start replacing all
    the force 110 links with them as soon as the weather warms a bit.
    The old 110s will become backup links.

    Best regards,

    Brandon Yuchasz

    GogebicRange.net

    www.gogebicrange.net <http://www.gogebicrange.net>

    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Marsh
    *Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 5:32 PM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Force 200 Ptp distance

    Thanks for the info Mathew ... I don't like more than 10 miles.
    But was curious at 20

    On Feb 23, 2016 5:28 PM, "Mathew Howard" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Yeah - 40 miles appears to be the max for ePMP. Realistically, it
    *should* be possible to get full modulation at 8 miles with Force
    200's, but at 20 miles, you're going to want bigger dishes.

    On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    As a non smart-ass answer, there are probably some timing
    constraints that will limit the distance before the RF will,
    assuming LOS.

    *From:*Chuck McCown <mailto:[email protected]>

    *Sent:*Tuesday, February 23, 2016 3:47 PM

    *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

    *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Force 200 Ptp distance

    I think earth curvature will probably be the limiting factor.

    *From:*Joseph Marsh <mailto:[email protected]>

    *Sent:*Tuesday, February 23, 2016 3:45 PM

    *To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>

    *Subject:*[AFMUG] Force 200 Ptp distance

    What is the max distance for a force 200 Ptp link?


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