I thought they said they couldn't because the 450d/110 and 200
reflectors are different dimensions?
I have no idea about the mounts. One thing I will say about the Force200
is that you want to be careful not to over-tighten the mast clamp bolts.
It will bend the plate. If you can picture that. I know that's what it
does, because it was me on a windy rooftop not paying attention...
On 2/24/2016 7:12 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
They didn't run with our recommendation to make the radomes the same?
Did the make the mounts the same?
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*From: *"George Skorup" <[email protected]>
*To: *[email protected]
*Sent: *Tuesday, February 23, 2016 10:42:51 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Force 200 Ptp distance
Seriously, no reseller will sell you just the 450d radome w/ the
sub-reflector? I don't understand why Cambium would be hard assed
about selling just the 450d radome kit. Refusing to sell something
they make seems pretty stupid. The sub-reflector is just the front of
the 110 wire suspended kit and snaps into the front of the radome, as
I'm sure you're aware. If you wanted, you could rip off the
suspenders. I've accidentally broken a few.
We haven't bought any 450d's yet. The antenna gain is calculated
incorrectly, so the DFS band Tx power is like 10dB low, which means no
worky for me. We're doing a lot of 5.4GHz now and we're not going to
run the 14.1.2 beta builds in mass. So yeah, I'm just not going there yet.
We haven't done any PTP links without radomes for the past several
years. It just makes sense. Not only for wind loading, but ice and
heavy wet snow, which we're about to get here tomorrow damnit!
On 2/23/2016 9:03 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:
Yep you guys hit the nail on the head. It’s the radome for us. I
just cant risk another drop due to ice / snow packing in a dish. I
tried to drum up enough interest in Chucks condom but not enough
jumped on board. I didn’t even get a response from Cambium when I
asked about the 450d radomes becoming available. Although we did
confirm they would fit / work. Kind of pissed me off since I was
told a year ago at animal farm they would have one for the 110.
Now they have it but won’t sell it.
I don’t mind having redundant links in place. Its been the plan
since we started putting up the 110’s. When it became obvious that
they were not going to give us radomes we backed off the install
schedule for the second links. So now we have to deploy the 200’s
to get the radomes but have to give up GPS. I should have just
deployed the microtik dishes with Eptp and radomes to start. That
was the plan before I was told the force 110 would have them.
Best regards
Brandon Yuchasz
GogebicRange.net
www.gogebicrange.net
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 8:41 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Force 200 Ptp distance
Wouldn't it be way cheaper and easier to use Chuck's condom radome?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 23, 2016 9:38 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We've been putting radomes on ALL of the Force200's.
Would be nice if they could come up with a sync-over-power variant
of the 200.
..... or let us order the 450d radome w/ sub-reflector element.
The Force110 and 450d is the same reflector.. and feed.
Just sayin.
On 2/23/2016 8:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
Why go through the effort of replacing them?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 23, 2016 9:31 PM, "Brandon Yuchasz"
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Not exactly what you are asking but we have done a lot of 10
to 12 mile links with the stock force 110 and got full
modulation. I have not put up the force 200 yet but plan to
start replacing all the force 110 links with them as soon as
the weather warms a bit. The old 110s will become backup links.
Best regards,
Brandon Yuchasz
GogebicRange.net
www.gogebicrange.net
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Joseph Marsh
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 23, 2016 5:32 PM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Force 200 Ptp distance
Thanks for the info Mathew ... I don't like more than 10
miles. But was curious at 20
On Feb 23, 2016 5:28 PM, "Mathew Howard"
<[email protected]> wrote:
Yeah - 40 miles appears to be the max for ePMP. Realistically,
it *should* be possible to get full modulation at 8 miles with
Force 200's, but at 20 miles, you're going to want bigger dishes.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
As a non smart-ass answer, there are probably some timing
constraints that will limit the distance before the RF will,
assuming LOS.
*From:*Chuck McCown <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Tuesday, February 23, 2016 3:47 PM
*To:*[email protected]
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Force 200 Ptp distance
I think earth curvature will probably be the limiting factor.
*From:*Joseph Marsh <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Tuesday, February 23, 2016 3:45 PM
*To:*[email protected]
*Subject:*[AFMUG] Force 200 Ptp distance
What is the max distance for a force 200 Ptp link?
