The last TV star president wasn't bad at all. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mar 12, 2016 12:28 PM, "Forrest Christian (List Account)" < [email protected]> wrote:
> Time for me to weigh in here. > > Trump scares me. I'm not convinced he's actually going to behave in a > way which matches his campaign persona. I'm also not convinced he isn't. > > What scares me is that he is very successfully stirring up the most > extreme parts of our country. He's pushing all the right buttons for the > people who believe this country has slid. Throw out all the Mexicans > because they're all murderous rapists. Kill ISIS. Close our borders. IF > it's an extreme position (on either side), he's pushing those buttons. > And somehow gaining voters because of it (which is even more scary). > > Just him running for president seems to be tearing our country apart. > What the heck is going to happen if he's elected? > > > > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 10:20 AM, Jeremy <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Mirror image of the KKK?? Wow. I have yet to see guys in black hoods >> dragging white people behind their cars, throwing bricks through their >> windows, burning crosses, and hanging white people from trees. A bit of an >> overstatement don't you think? >> >> On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Glen Waldrop <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Wow. >>> >>> Way to gang up guys. >>> >>> I have to agree with Rory here. Black Lives Matter has all but become >>> the mirror image of the KKK. Sure, some of them are doing it for the right >>> reasons, but like environmentalists, feminists and dozens of other –ists >>> the wackos have hijacked what could have been something powerful, something >>> good, and gone *way* over the line. >>> >>> One common thing among those groups are the very vocal fringe left. >>> >>> I’m sitting here in the middle watching both sides go completely apeshit >>> crazy. >>> >>> Can no one sit back and look at the big picture? >>> >>> Are we so divided that logic has completely left the discussion? It >>> certainly seems that way and not just on the list. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Bill Prince <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 11:02 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? >>> >>> You know Rory, as long as it's "conservatives versus liberals" and >>> liberals are the scum of the earth, you're never going to listen to reason. >>> >>> For the most part I F6 your posts because they all seem to go down the >>> same rat hole. You seem to have a chip on your shoulder. >>> >>> bp >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>> >>> >>> On 3/12/2016 8:56 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: >>> >>> You know what Ken, let’s do this. >>> >>> >>> >>> You need me to sound racist because your liberal mindset is that >>> everyone is a victim. I probably have a much wider diversity of friends, >>> business partners, and colleagues than you do and never has anyone ever >>> called me racist. Because I abhor racial division and call it out for what >>> it is, an excuse for failure and control by race hustlers, I’m a racist. >>> That’s the pea-brained mentality of the intellectually dishonest. You >>> simply can’t understand that there are those of us who don’t care about >>> race, we simply don’t have time for it in our lives and we don’t see it. >>> However, we can define the problems created by race, race hustlers, and >>> liberals who don’t want to face facts, just blame everyone else for their >>> problems and failures. >>> >>> >>> >>> What I care about is that there is a class of people that are not >>> assimilating into society because nobody wants to face the facts. You >>> would rather stick your head in the sand and call out those of us who see >>> the truth racists. Here is a fact, not having a solid family support >>> system, not following the law, and not working hard is a recipe for >>> failure, regardless of the race. If you don’t want to face that fact, so >>> be it. Stick your head in the sand, blame me and call me names, and stand >>> by while our country falls apart because you don’t have the intellectual >>> honesty to face that fact that the greatest country in the world is falling >>> apart from within and from the outside. Hell yes, I want our borders >>> sealed and immigrants required to learn our language and honor our >>> heritage. Hell yes I want every child to get a good education that honors >>> this country, the founders that gave it to us, and the men and women who >>> died to protect it. And until we recognize that keeping an entire culture >>> in poverty and ignorance by not expecting them to excel is a bad thing, >>> then we as a country are doomed to further internal violence, strife, and >>> separation. I don’t care about the color, I care about the fact that >>> color is used as an excuse. >>> >>> >>> >>> The sad part is it’s not just any specific culture, it’s the entire >>> generation. There isn’t a manufacturer here that doesn’t have engineering >>> outside this country because they can’t find enough engineering talent >>> within our own borders because our culture and education failed an entire >>> generation. And as for Obama, his policies have escalated this problem, >>> including unemployment, a poor economy, lower standards of living, hatred >>> of police and authority, and racial division and escalation. So if you are >>> big supporter of him, congratulations, you picked a real winner there. You >>> want the truth, that’s it. So bring it on Ken. I’ll back my conclusions >>> with the facts from the Census bureau, the FBI, the U.S Department of the >>> Interior, the U.S. Bureau of Labor, and the Bureau of Economic Analysis but >>> those facts won’t matter will they? >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:25 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? >>> >>> >>> >>> Yes, I think your statements sound racist, and finally I call your out >>> for it. Why is that over the line? You have made some pretty inflammatory >>> statements, but it seems you can’t take any criticism? >>> >>> >>> >>> We have a WISPA conference coming up. One thing I always notice is we >>> are not a very diverse crowd. Almost all white men. That leads to the >>> belief that prejudice is OK because everyone here thinks that way too. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:14 AM >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? >>> >>> >>> >>> That’s out of line Ken, at any level. What matters to me is that the >>> violence fostered by ignorant people in our society who don’t contribute, >>> but foster racial hatred and disdain for the Constitution, the Laws of this >>> country, and want special treatment. I don’t give a crap what color they >>> are but they keep bringing it up. Black Lives Matter, Black Caucuses, etc… >>> The rest of us just want everyone to be Americans but it’s liberals that >>> won’t let race go because they need it to stay in power. >>> >>> >>> >>> You want to attack me for my beliefs Ken, that’s fine. You want to call >>> me a racist, what I really want to tell you will get me banned. I’m done >>> with this and Ken, please don’t ever speak to me again. You went too far. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:17 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? >>> >>> >>> >>> Black people really seem to set you off. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >>> >>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:51 AM >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? >>> >>> >>> >>> Faisal, I’m ready to continue our other discussion. BTW, Black Lives >>> Matter showed up to the Chicago rally and now there is looting and gun >>> fire. I really doubt the Trump supporters are doing that. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >>> Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz >>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:32 AM >>> >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? >>> >>> >>> >>> I hope you realize that everyone participating in this discussion is an >>> Adult, and a Patriot. Everyone is very much concerned about the future of >>> our great nation. The discussion is over the events as they are unfolding. >>> >>> >>> >>> It is very interesting to me, as an independent, that folks on the right >>> are so upset, and so polarized in their view that they are willing to >>> accept bad behavior from anyone of their affiliated party, since that >>> person can do nothing wrong and the other side cannot do nothing right... >>> >>> >>> >>> I fully understand that everyone is passionate, but exchange of views in >>> a polite healthy manner is the proper decorum, watching the GOP primaries >>> turn into a circus act is embarrassing, because the world is watching, >>> and to see folks trying to explain and justify is even more troubling. >>> >>> >>> >>> Bad behavior is bad behavior, it should be called out, and it should not >>> bt acceptable at any level from anyone. While the media is fully >>> responsible for fueling the fire and covering only the inciting stuff.... >>> watch closely the clips of trouble at the Trump rallies, there appears to >>> be an steadily increasing amount of 'supporter participation' in this bad >>> behavior.... (when someone is being lead out, by security there are folks >>> hitting and throwing punches at the person being lead out....).. and Mr >>> Trump constantly refuses to condemn such behavior, which indicates approval. >>> >>> >>> >>> While you can explain it and justify it which ever way you want, some of >>> us who have had a broader view of the world, have seen this type of >>> behavior and events , in the other parts of the world.. and the end results >>> were not very good for anyone.... As such their is rising concern. >>> >>> >>> >>> The GOP is playing with Fire, one they think they can control.... >>> historically speaking when that particular type of genie is let out of the >>> bottle, no one has been able to control it ..... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> :) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> Faisal Imtiaz >>> Snappy Internet & Telecom >>> 7266 SW 48 Street >>> Miami, FL 33155 >>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >>> >>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: <[email protected]> >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Rory Conaway" < <[email protected]>[email protected]> >>> *To: * <[email protected]>[email protected] >>> *Sent: *Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:05:42 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? >>> >>> Jaime, travel to the WWII museum and learn about the sacrifices we made >>> as a country to stop men like Hitler. You have so mischaracterized what >>> Trump is saying but I’d rather take this discussion elsewhere to someplace >>> like Facebook. >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [ <[email protected]>mailto:[email protected] >>> <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 6:59 AM >>> *To:* Animal Farm >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? >>> >>> >>> >>> Fault? Its human nature....you push me and I push back...most fights >>> start that way...literally and figuratively... Trump doesn't deny he has >>> asked him audience to beat the crap of those "bad dudes"...let's go back to >>> old days....what civil rights riots? Wallace? Lynching? He is playing to >>> the older white man who fears foreigners are taking over the US. Xenophobia >>> was one of Hitler and others methods used to create a fervor and led to >>> murder of millions. i have a different perspective on things from my >>> ancestors and upbringing plus traveling. Travel outside USA and your eyes >>> open a bit more. I normally stay quiet on politics but not this >>> time.....too much at stake...Trump will not win. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > *Forrest Christian* *CEO**, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc.* > Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 > [email protected] | http://www.packetflux.com > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/fwchristian> <http://facebook.com/packetflux> > <http://twitter.com/@packetflux> > >
