>>> being suspicious of a company because they have a possible association with >>> a known thief
I thought this was collectively covered and agreed that they ALL are thieves...so why pick on only one of them ? Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] > From: "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 9:48:19 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > Being suspicious of a company because they have a possible association with a > known thief is very different from blind suspicion based on religion. > On Monday, March 21, 2016, Faisal Imtiaz < [email protected] > wrote: >> Wow, what can I say, go get your tin foil hat... >> The next thing you will be taking a crap about is that.....Mimosa now has a >> team >> of engineers working out of Turkey...who knows what those damm Moselems are >> putting in thier code, as part of Sharia domination of America. >> Stay fearful my friend. >> :) >> Regards >> Faisal >> Sent from Mobile Device >> -------- Original message -------- >> From: Rory Conaway >> Date:03/21/2016 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00) >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >> I don’t think the question is whether or not they are a Chinese company, I >> think >> the question is whether or not Huawei is involved on some level, either >> hardware or software. Besides the fact that they entire company is based on >> stolen property from day 1, the second part of the argument is whether or not >> they are funding or delivering technology to Baicell. Only Patrick Leary can >> answer that. I suggest he step in to clarify this. >> Rory >> From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz >> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 8:09 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >> Gotta love these conversations... >> What was the original topic ? >> Ahhh... Baicells.... a new Mfg. of LTE Products looking to forge entrance in >> the >> WISP Market Space.... who is just starting to establish themselves in the US, >> and as such have recruited some of The Most Respected Folks in the Community >> !... Patrick, Rick, Boun.. reminds me of a Dream Team being put together..... >> To start throwing mud or imply any FUD, just because they are a Chinese >> Company >> would be a mistake.... I took a look at the Bio of the founders, and the fact >> that their founder are not some corporate yo yo's looking to make some $$, >> but >> one of serious engineering backgrounds actively participating in the LTE >> Standards committee (Global entity).. says a lot to me... >> I am looking forward to some interesting and exciting times in the WISP >> futures >> ahead !.... Time to grow up into serious operators ! >> :) >> Best of Luck Everyone ! >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >>> From: "Josh Reynolds" < [email protected] > >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 8:18:38 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>> Ah okay. Had no idea such a thing existed. >>> On Mar 20, 2016 7:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" < [email protected] > wrote: >>> WIC, NM, PA, etc. Plug in card for a modular router. >>> From: Josh Reynolds >>> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 7:08 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>> Define module? >>> On Mar 20, 2016 6:56 PM, "Ken Hohhof" < [email protected] > wrote: >>> I’m not sure I equate “previously owned” with “grey market”. And if Cisco >>> had a >>> problem with it, they didn’t have to sell you a Smartnet contract for the >>> used >>> gear. Pretty good actually selling a full year HW/SW maintenance contract >>> just >>> so you can upgrade the SW. >>> What I won’t do is buy the “new” Cisco modules from Hong Kong that are >>> probably >>> counterfeit. Even if they are made from the same parts in the same factory. >>> From: Bruce Robertson >>> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 5:23 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>> I *never* *ever* did that........................... >>> On 03/20/2016 02:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>> Funny, how many of us bought the cheapest Cisco thing we could find and >>>> registered it so we could get fresh software for the grey market more >>>> expensive >>>> routers we deployed.... hmmm???? >>>> From: Eric Kuhnke >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 2:50 PM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>>> I really don't see the point of trying to prevent shipments of >>>> telecom/IT/networking equipment to Iran, or punishing anybody for selling >>>> telecom/IT/networking gear to Iran: >>>> 1) If people in Iran really want the stuff they will simply arrange a way >>>> to buy >>>> it from Dubai. >>>> 2) Isn't it a good thing to ship any sort of computer/networking/ISP gear >>>> into >>>> Iran? There's a very active community of Iranians who have come up with >>>> local >>>> Farsi language documents/training guides and information on how to run >>>> Tor, how >>>> to get around government internet censorship, move VPN traffic through >>>> their >>>> ISPs' blackholes. Iranians want to read unfettered media. The US >>>> government has >>>> a whole Farsi language division funded from the Voice of America/BBG >>>> (Broadcasting Board of Governors) that is trying to reach Iranians. There >>>> are a >>>> shitload of Iranians that want to use Facebook, Whatsapp, Skype, etc. More >>>> communication with the outside world is good. >>>> http://www.radiofarda.com/ >>>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Josh Reynolds < [email protected] > >>>> wrote: >>>> You are familiar with Cisco developing products to aid in China's internet >>>> snooping and repression, right? >>>> On Mar 20, 2016 12:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" < [email protected] > wrote: >>>> Recent article raises suspicions Huawei violated Iran sanctions. >>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/19/technology/zte-document-raises-questions-about-huawei-and-sanctions.html?_r=0 >>>> Although expecting Chinese companies to obey our sanctions against Iran >>>> and not >>>> use tricks to get around them is probably unrealistic. But it’s a little >>>> humorous reading how ZTE copied the tricks of an unnamed company that is >>>> clearly Huawei. >>>> From: Mike Hammett >>>> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 11:44 AM >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>>> Some of it is bull, but the blatant duplication of Cisco is indisputable. >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>> The Brothers WISP >>>> From: "Josh Reynolds" < [email protected] > >>>> To: [email protected] >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 6:44:02 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>>> Has anybody taken a look at the number of government employees China has >>>> by any >>>> chance? What about the number of DoD and general federal workforce? Do >>>> those >>>> members of the workforce - do their policies and beliefs fall 100% in line >>>> with >>>> things the government as a whole says or does? >>>> You guys realize that half the shit you've heard about Huawei was bullshit >>>> put >>>> for by our government who were acting as mouthpieces for Cisco which was >>>> later >>>> RECANTED by our own government in just a few short years and then used in >>>> FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECTS, right? >>>> I'm curious if maybe Google, Amazon, and Facebook have done anything "bad" >>>> in >>>> your eyes... Since they have direct connections to the CIA and NSA. They >>>> have >>>> an incredible amount of data and control. >>>> What's that, the NSA has intercepted routing and switching products mid >>>> shipment >>>> and modified them before sending them out? What's that, the NSA was caught >>>> weakening encryption protocols, the Linux kernel, and put backdoors in >>>> equipment from companies like Fortigate, Cisco, and Juniper - putting our >>>> own >>>> countries citizens and world governments at risk in the process? >>>> I'm not saying that Huawei is any kind of saint, or that they haven't done >>>> shitty things in the past - my problem is you and others are insinuating >>>> that >>>> every employee Huawei has ever had is some kind of scumbag while >>>> simultaneously >>>> holding up a different mirror to our own government and its employees. >>>> For fukes sake get some goddamn perspective. >>>> On Mar 19, 2016 6:30 PM, "Jason McKemie" < >>>> [email protected] > >>>> wrote: >>>> I'd tend to agree, hence my concern. I'm not sure that just having one of >>>> the >>>> lead people from Huawei is any connection other than the obvious. This >>>> person >>>> could have had issues with the company as well, and left as a result. >>>> On Saturday, March 19, 2016, Rory Conaway < [email protected] > wrote: >>>> If there is a Huawei connection, we won’t touch it, simple as that. Huawei >>>> is >>>> both a thief and an arm of the Chinese government. >>>> Rory >>>> From: Af [mailto: [email protected] ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 4:03 PM >>>> To: af >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>>> I'm assuming that $1/month is for some kind of cloud based EPC.... you can >>>> most >>>> likely buy your own instead, but that seems to be one of the more costly >>>> parts >>>> of doing LTE. >>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Jason McKemie < >>>> [email protected] > wrote: >>>> Good interview. A couple things I'm wondering / concerned about though. >>>> First of >>>> all, what's with the $1/month/CPE? I realize it isn't a ton of money, just >>>> seems like an expense that shouldn't be there. Also, I'm a little wary of >>>> the >>>> Huawei tie-in - although I haven't researched the specific "fellow" that >>>> they're talking about. >>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5vNs0roFK4 >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>> The Brothers WISP >>>> !DSPAM:2,56ef137a138861700012119!
