Rory, Are you that Naive to think and believe that our Country, the standards bearer of the Capitalistic system in the World, behaves in the best interest of the Gov and Or the People ? and not in the Best Interest of the Corporate Economic Engine that drives everything ?
Dude, I am floored !.... (p.s THe folks on the other side of the world are very fast learners... they see and they copy... not just tech but behavior too !) :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] > From: "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 10:35:17 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > Faisal, your analogy is not logical. Huawei stole the technology to create > their > company. I will not do business with thieves. Who you do business with is up > to > you but it is also a reflection on your character and morality. > As for your paranoia part, you really don’t know all the facts about their > strategy, the technological abilities when it comes to back doors and what we > can and cannot detect. Until you really know what’s happening and what the > Chinese governmental strategy is concerning world domination, control of the > infrastructure of its potential enemies, and how Huawei plays into that > strategy, your conclusion is based on your personal beliefs, not facts. Make > no > mistake, Huawei was created by the Chinese military and is part of a larger > strategy. To deny that is simply ignorance. > One other thing that needs to be made clear is that the United States spying > was > never historically done to enable an economic advantage, it was done for > security reasons. China and Japan sanctioned state sponsored thefts of patents > and gave it to key industries. I don’t believe Japan is doing that any more > but > in the 70’s and 80’s, they were as bad as China, just ask Catepillar. > Rory > From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Monday, March 21, 2016 5:31 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > Wow, what can I say, go get your tin foil hat... > The next thing you will be taking a crap about is that.....Mimosa now has a > team > of engineers working out of Turkey...who knows what those damm Moselems are > putting in thier code, as part of Sharia domination of America. > Stay fearful my friend. > :) > Regards > Faisal > Sent from Mobile Device > -------- Original message -------- > From: Rory Conaway > Date:03/21/2016 12:44 AM (GMT-05:00) > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > I don’t think the question is whether or not they are a Chinese company, I > think > the question is whether or not Huawei is involved on some level, either > hardware or software. Besides the fact that they entire company is based on > stolen property from day 1, the second part of the argument is whether or not > they are funding or delivering technology to Baicell. Only Patrick Leary can > answer that. I suggest he step in to clarify this. > Rory > From: Af [ mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 8:09 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > Gotta love these conversations... > What was the original topic ? > Ahhh... Baicells.... a new Mfg. of LTE Products looking to forge entrance in > the > WISP Market Space.... who is just starting to establish themselves in the US, > and as such have recruited some of The Most Respected Folks in the Community > !... Patrick, Rick, Boun.. reminds me of a Dream Team being put together..... > To start throwing mud or imply any FUD, just because they are a Chinese > Company > would be a mistake.... I took a look at the Bio of the founders, and the fact > that their founder are not some corporate yo yo's looking to make some $$, but > one of serious engineering backgrounds actively participating in the LTE > Standards committee (Global entity).. says a lot to me... > I am looking forward to some interesting and exciting times in the WISP > futures > ahead !.... Time to grow up into serious operators ! > :) > Best of Luck Everyone ! > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >> From: "Josh Reynolds" < [email protected] > >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 8:18:38 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >> Ah okay. Had no idea such a thing existed. >> On Mar 20, 2016 7:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" < [email protected] > wrote: >> WIC, NM, PA, etc. Plug in card for a modular router. >> From: Josh Reynolds >> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 7:08 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >> Define module? >> On Mar 20, 2016 6:56 PM, "Ken Hohhof" < [email protected] > wrote: >> I’m not sure I equate “previously owned” with “grey market”. And if Cisco >> had a >> problem with it, they didn’t have to sell you a Smartnet contract for the >> used >> gear. Pretty good actually selling a full year HW/SW maintenance contract >> just >> so you can upgrade the SW. >> What I won’t do is buy the “new” Cisco modules from Hong Kong that are >> probably >> counterfeit. Even if they are made from the same parts in the same factory. >> From: Bruce Robertson >> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 5:23 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >> I *never* *ever* did that........................... >> On 03/20/2016 02:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>> Funny, how many of us bought the cheapest Cisco thing we could find and >>> registered it so we could get fresh software for the grey market more >>> expensive >>> routers we deployed.... hmmm???? >>> From: Eric Kuhnke >>> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 2:50 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>> I really don't see the point of trying to prevent shipments of >>> telecom/IT/networking equipment to Iran, or punishing anybody for selling >>> telecom/IT/networking gear to Iran: >>> 1) If people in Iran really want the stuff they will simply arrange a way >>> to buy >>> it from Dubai. >>> 2) Isn't it a good thing to ship any sort of computer/networking/ISP gear >>> into >>> Iran? There's a very active community of Iranians who have come up with >>> local >>> Farsi language documents/training guides and information on how to run Tor, >>> how >>> to get around government internet censorship, move VPN traffic through their >>> ISPs' blackholes. Iranians want to read unfettered media. The US government >>> has >>> a whole Farsi language division funded from the Voice of America/BBG >>> (Broadcasting Board of Governors) that is trying to reach Iranians. There >>> are a >>> shitload of Iranians that want to use Facebook, Whatsapp, Skype, etc. More >>> communication with the outside world is good. >>> http://www.radiofarda.com/ >>> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Josh Reynolds < [email protected] > >>> wrote: >>> You are familiar with Cisco developing products to aid in China's internet >>> snooping and repression, right? >>> On Mar 20, 2016 12:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" < [email protected] > wrote: >>> Recent article raises suspicions Huawei violated Iran sanctions. >>> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/19/technology/zte-document-raises-questions-about-huawei-and-sanctions.html?_r=0 >>> Although expecting Chinese companies to obey our sanctions against Iran and >>> not >>> use tricks to get around them is probably unrealistic. But it’s a little >>> humorous reading how ZTE copied the tricks of an unnamed company that is >>> clearly Huawei. >>> From: Mike Hammett >>> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 11:44 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>> Some of it is bull, but the blatant duplication of Cisco is indisputable. >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>> The Brothers WISP >>> From: "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 6:44:02 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>> Has anybody taken a look at the number of government employees China has by >>> any >>> chance? What about the number of DoD and general federal workforce? Do those >>> members of the workforce - do their policies and beliefs fall 100% in line >>> with >>> things the government as a whole says or does? >>> You guys realize that half the shit you've heard about Huawei was bullshit >>> put >>> for by our government who were acting as mouthpieces for Cisco which was >>> later >>> RECANTED by our own government in just a few short years and then used in >>> FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECTS, right? >>> I'm curious if maybe Google, Amazon, and Facebook have done anything "bad" >>> in >>> your eyes... Since they have direct connections to the CIA and NSA. They >>> have >>> an incredible amount of data and control. >>> What's that, the NSA has intercepted routing and switching products mid >>> shipment >>> and modified them before sending them out? What's that, the NSA was caught >>> weakening encryption protocols, the Linux kernel, and put backdoors in >>> equipment from companies like Fortigate, Cisco, and Juniper - putting our >>> own >>> countries citizens and world governments at risk in the process? >>> I'm not saying that Huawei is any kind of saint, or that they haven't done >>> shitty things in the past - my problem is you and others are insinuating >>> that >>> every employee Huawei has ever had is some kind of scumbag while >>> simultaneously >>> holding up a different mirror to our own government and its employees. >>> For fukes sake get some goddamn perspective. >>> On Mar 19, 2016 6:30 PM, "Jason McKemie" <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> I'd tend to agree, hence my concern. I'm not sure that just having one of >>> the >>> lead people from Huawei is any connection other than the obvious. This >>> person >>> could have had issues with the company as well, and left as a result. >>> On Saturday, March 19, 2016, Rory Conaway <[email protected]> wrote: >>> If there is a Huawei connection, we won’t touch it, simple as that. Huawei >>> is >>> both a thief and an arm of the Chinese government. >>> Rory >>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard >>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 4:03 PM >>> To: af >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>> I'm assuming that $1/month is for some kind of cloud based EPC.... you can >>> most >>> likely buy your own instead, but that seems to be one of the more costly >>> parts >>> of doing LTE. >>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Jason McKemie >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Good interview. A couple things I'm wondering / concerned about though. >>> First of >>> all, what's with the $1/month/CPE? I realize it isn't a ton of money, just >>> seems like an expense that shouldn't be there. Also, I'm a little wary of >>> the >>> Huawei tie-in - although I haven't researched the specific "fellow" that >>> they're talking about. >>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5vNs0roFK4 >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>> The Brothers WISP >>> !DSPAM:2,56ef137a138861700012119!
