No.  But if the Leaf battery fails, it’s $6500 with labor.  If the Tesla 
battery fails, you can go buy a fully loaded Mustang for what it’s going to 
cost to replace, figure about $30K once you get past 50,000 miles.  That’s what 
scares me the most.  That’s also why we Lease at this point, until those prices 
start coming down.  Want to see devaluation, wait until a battery fails in a 
60,000 mile Tesla, then you could pick one up for about $15K.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2016 11:41 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?

Does the Leaf use the same system of batteries like the Tesla?  Those fatter AA 
sized lithium ion batteries?


Josh Luthman
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On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 2:39 PM, Chuck McCown 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Nissan LEAF goes into turtle mode about  10 miles after it says you have zero 
battery.
Turtle mode gives you about a quarter of a mile at 20 mph.  Enough to pull over 
to the side of  the highway.  But you better do it immediately.

On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 1:08 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

i have fleeting memories of my cellphone battery....i have an htc one remix.  
i've had it maybe a year.  of course it gets drained every day.  now it just 
dies when the battery is at 44%.  i know it will - but thats not right.  it 
didn't used to do it.

how bad would it suck if your car battery just died at 44%....


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From: Chuck McCown<mailto:[email protected]>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?

But you don’t.  That is the point.  I have a charger at home and at work and at 
my other work.  3-5 seconds.  None if  you have a passenger do it for you...

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Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:25 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?

You still have most of those hassles with electric. You still have them all if 
you're not at a free charging location.


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From: "Chuck McCown" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:17:50 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
Time it.  You will be surprised.  5 minutes.  Gotta drive in, park, get out, 
gas cap off, swipe card, wait for authentication, select fuel, wait for beep, 
put hose in, pull trigger.  Wait a couple  of minutes, reverse all of the 
above, stand in rain, snow gas fumes, noise.

From the moment you leave the street to being back on the street 5 minutes.

And it costs you money!

I charge with solar.

From: Josh Luthman<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:13 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?


We drive past gas stations every day.  It's what, 2 minutes?

If you travel >200 miles your time table is screwed as you need to charge.  
Your route also can't be the scenic one.

It costs more than my current car which I have today and I doubt it comes close 
in terms of comfort.

Oh and the auto pilot doesn't try to hit oncoming traffic.  That's a nice 
upside!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
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Troy, OH 45373
On Apr 1, 2016 12:03 AM, "Chuck McCown" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Silent neck  snapping acceleration and never stopping to gas up...
If your daily trips are fairly short, you would only have to plug in once a 
week.
There is nothing but upside here.

From: Josh Luthman<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:00 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?


Even if it were 5 seconds that would be more time every two weeks than what I 
spend at a gas station.  Then I have to pay for power anyway...

Not a fan of the front end duck bill.  The rear has too much Prius.  Side looks 
great.  Interior looked unfinished or space aged.

115k preorders for something you won't see in two years, though?  Woof.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
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On Mar 31, 2016 11:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
It takes 5 seconds to plug in and you wave at every gas station as you pass it.

From: Josh Luthman<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2016 9:02 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?


No interest really.  Plugging in every time I get home?  Yuck.  I love the 
updates they do with the Model S and the API power is really awesome, but I'm 
more for NA over boost, let alone electric.

I saw the website and thought "Who's going to preorder a car that won't be 
announced for another hour?". IPhone users :P

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
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Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 31, 2016 10:57 PM, "Simon Westlake" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
One day!

On 3/31/2016 9:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
Gerard and I just put our pre-orders in..anyone else?

Regards,
Chuck

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