Why not study Isreal. I think they have a wall and i think they believe it
works.  Obviously a lot shorter than our border but the premise is the
same. I think Russia built a short wall that worked well for a while in
Germany somewhere. I am not saying a wall is the solution,  just that there
are modem examples of them doing so.

I think I'd you shoot everyone who cruised when their foot hit the dirt on
the US side it would probably deter a lot of people.  I doubt that would be
acceptable though.  But again,  i thought we were discussing things that
would work.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016, 11:49 AM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
wrote:

> The saddest part Paul is that many including Trump slept through history
> class.   How much money have we spent on drug war and building the Tortilla
> Curtain?   Millions?  Billions?   Do you remember a feeble attempt to put
> righteous religious beliefs of a few and hope to stop people from drinking
> adult beverages?  Hell not only did it not work...it allowed another
> industry to flourish..organized crime!!!!  If American companies, ranchers
> and farmers didn't hire illegal immigrants they would go home, of course
> not before they sold drugs and raped all our women according to chicken
> shit Trump  ....if our American youth didn't crave and buy drugs the
> cartels would find new markets.    There is no simple solution to
> immigration..... many Americans don't want to work in hot sun and fields at
> even 15.00 an hour.   Many Americans don't want to work in highway
> construction either.... so companies hire those who want to work including
> Trump...visit his place in Vegas...a wall will not work...it is like
> spitting at Heaven.     Study about Hannibal, Wall of China,  Navarrone,
> etc.    If someone needs to get over or through it, they will.  I stand by
> what I wrote...Trump is a fucking idiot.
> On Apr 6, 2016 9:44 AM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> You are dead on.  I don’t know what Trump will do.  I do know what
>> Hillary and Cruz will do.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 06, 2016 8:40 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>
>>
>>
>> Guys,  I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up front.
>>
>>
>>
>> However,  there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy.  The negotiation
>> is just that… a negotiation.  IF he gets in, and starts this process and is
>> bound and determined to make it happen, extremities can be discussed (or
>> thrown out there as shots across the bow), and then adjustments get made.
>> The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from him, gets it started, and
>> having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever way that takes) will get
>> people’s attention.
>>
>>
>>
>> Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges?  Of course not.  Is
>> it helpful and one part of the total solution needed?   absolutely.  There
>> IS NO border with the U.S. right now.  What is there is a façade.  Trump is
>> crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a bit (for everybody’s
>> benefit, including himself), but this country needs action in so, so many
>> areas and nobody seems to have the gonads to do anything that isn’t buried
>> in PC or politics or corruption or power or all of the above.
>>
>>
>>
>> I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the subject.  But, I 
>> *still
>> believe in America* and its strength and there is been absolutely
>> nothing done in recent time to maintain or increase its strength… only
>> further dilution and division and flailing discourse at an unprecedented
>> level historically.
>>
>>
>>
>> Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix our country fan”
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM
>> *To:* Animal Farm
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers
>> to Mexico - WSJ
>>
>>
>>
>> What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... did I say fucking
>> idiot..oh yes I did
>>
>>
>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237
>>
>

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