As far as Israel's wall working, I think that Sec.-Lt Hadar Goldin, Maj.
Benaya Sarel, and St.-Sgt. Liel Gidoni would beg to differ.

On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Lewis Bergman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Why not study Isreal. I think they have a wall and i think they believe it
> works.  Obviously a lot shorter than our border but the premise is the
> same. I think Russia built a short wall that worked well for a while in
> Germany somewhere. I am not saying a wall is the solution,  just that there
> are modem examples of them doing so.
>
> I think I'd you shoot everyone who cruised when their foot hit the dirt on
> the US side it would probably deter a lot of people.  I doubt that would be
> acceptable though.  But again,  i thought we were discussing things that
> would work.
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016, 11:49 AM Jaime Solorza <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> The saddest part Paul is that many including Trump slept through history
>> class.   How much money have we spent on drug war and building the Tortilla
>> Curtain?   Millions?  Billions?   Do you remember a feeble attempt to put
>> righteous religious beliefs of a few and hope to stop people from drinking
>> adult beverages?  Hell not only did it not work...it allowed another
>> industry to flourish..organized crime!!!!  If American companies, ranchers
>> and farmers didn't hire illegal immigrants they would go home, of course
>> not before they sold drugs and raped all our women according to chicken
>> shit Trump  ....if our American youth didn't crave and buy drugs the
>> cartels would find new markets.    There is no simple solution to
>> immigration..... many Americans don't want to work in hot sun and fields at
>> even 15.00 an hour.   Many Americans don't want to work in highway
>> construction either.... so companies hire those who want to work including
>> Trump...visit his place in Vegas...a wall will not work...it is like
>> spitting at Heaven.     Study about Hannibal, Wall of China,  Navarrone,
>> etc.    If someone needs to get over or through it, they will.  I stand by
>> what I wrote...Trump is a fucking idiot.
>> On Apr 6, 2016 9:44 AM, "Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> You are dead on.  I don’t know what Trump will do.  I do know what
>>> Hillary and Cruz will do.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Rory
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 06, 2016 8:40 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money
>>> Transfers to Mexico - WSJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Guys,  I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up front.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However,  there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy.  The negotiation
>>> is just that… a negotiation.  IF he gets in, and starts this process and is
>>> bound and determined to make it happen, extremities can be discussed (or
>>> thrown out there as shots across the bow), and then adjustments get made.
>>> The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from him, gets it started, and
>>> having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever way that takes) will get
>>> people’s attention.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges?  Of course not.  Is
>>> it helpful and one part of the total solution needed?   absolutely.  There
>>> IS NO border with the U.S. right now.  What is there is a façade.  Trump is
>>> crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a bit (for everybody’s
>>> benefit, including himself), but this country needs action in so, so many
>>> areas and nobody seems to have the gonads to do anything that isn’t buried
>>> in PC or politics or corruption or power or all of the above.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the subject.  But, I 
>>> *still
>>> believe in America* and its strength and there is been absolutely
>>> nothing done in recent time to maintain or increase its strength… only
>>> further dilution and division and flailing discourse at an unprecedented
>>> level historically.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix our country fan”
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On
>>> Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers
>>> to Mexico - WSJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... did I say fucking
>>> idiot..oh yes I did
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237
>>>
>>

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