I can only warn you that you'll have a very angry set of customers.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Mathew Howard <[email protected]> wrote: > I've been meaning to do a direct comparison between the two, by swapping > one of our UBNT 2.4ghz APs to an ePMP and keeping the exact same antennas > and everything else... I just need to figure out where I can do it that's > going to give me some useful information and not make too many customers > angry. > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:49 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> >> I do not believe we have had both on the same tower. We had diverted to >> doing epmp 2.4 not long after it came out as we had lots of problems with >> ESD on ubnt 2.4 rockets. Changed some things and they are surviving storms >> much better. >> >> Tests near EPMP vs. tests on other towers (3 miles away? - totally same >> environment) just revealed in dramatically different results. Not as much >> speed, maybe, but at least we're getting a usable signal up to a mile or >> two away. With epmp we're lucky to get a mile way. >> >> Understand we are in THICK tree country. 900 is still our primary product >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Mathew Howard <[email protected]> >> *To:* af <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 4:31 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP >> >> But does it actually perform worse that UBNT 2.4ghz on the same link, or >> is it maybe just differences in how they calculate signal levels? It >> doesn't make any sense that two different radios running on the same >> frequency putting the same amount of power into the same antennas would >> give significantly different signal levels... >> >> The closest thing I've done to a comparison was playing with a Force 200 >> 2.4ghz in wifi mode... there didn't seem to be a significant difference >> between it and a PowerBeam connecting to the same AP. >> >> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> And I've tried IT Elite dual pol panels, Force 200 2.4, integrated + >>> reflector for CPEs. Continues to suck. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I’m thinking more the CPE antennas. >>>> >>>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:59 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP >>>> >>>> >>>> hmm, i will check into that. Pretty sure with ubnt we're using kp >>>> performance. With epmp, i think it is bundled antennas... >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:50 PM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP >>>> >>>> Jay, I suspect the difference you are seeing may be mainly in the >>>> antennas. 2.4 GHz from any vendor should penetrate the same, the radio >>>> waves don’t care what brand radio launched them. And I think the >>>> difference between the platforms will be most evident in low interference >>>> environment where they can achieve their full modulation and throughput. >>>> With low SNR, I think it’s kind of like arguing Ferrari vs Porsche for off >>>> road racing, neither will be able to show off its capabilities. Receiver >>>> sensitivity and bits/sec/Hz won’t matter. >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:28 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP >>>> >>>> >>>> Also interested in interference rejection of the pmp450 - is there any >>>> (in 2.4) >>>> we are getting better foliage penetration with ubnt 2.4 than epmp 2.4 - >>>> - and from the performance of >>>> the epmp 2.4 i wish wish wish it penetrated better! >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> *From:* Matt <[email protected]> >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 2:25 PM >>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP >>>> >>>> We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450 deployed. Some Ubiquiti we tried and >>>> some we inherited as well. Have some ePMP we have tested but so far >>>> have not deployed more then couple test links. >>>> >>>> For those who have tried both ePMP and PMP450 what are the differences >>>> you have seen in performance? Interference tolerance among others? >>>> >>>> For those that have gone with PMP450 over ePMP what was the reasoning? >>>> >>>> >>> >> >
