I mean signal attenuation through foliage.  Possibly LOS range, too, but I
don't really have a whole lot of testing for that because if we see the
tower we do 5 GHz.


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On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:56 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
[email protected]> wrote:

> i just replied to the thread
>
> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> So by penetration, do you mean LOS range, or signal attenuation through
>> foliage?
>>
>> Another possibility, foliage probably depolarizes the signal, perhaps the
>> two radios have differing ability to recover the two streams and achieve
>> full MIMO-B throughput.  Although I would expect they would both be relying
>> on the 802.11 chip processing for this.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 4:10 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
>>
>> And I've tried IT Elite dual pol panels, Force 200 2.4, integrated +
>> reflector for CPEs.  Continues to suck.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I’m thinking more the CPE antennas.
>>>
>>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:59 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
>>>
>>>
>>> hmm, i will check into that. Pretty sure with ubnt we're using kp
>>> performance.  With epmp, i think it is bundled antennas...
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:50 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
>>>
>>> Jay, I suspect the difference you are seeing may be mainly in the
>>> antennas.  2.4 GHz from any vendor should penetrate the same, the radio
>>> waves don’t care what brand radio launched them.  And I think the
>>> difference between the platforms will be most evident in low interference
>>> environment where they can achieve their full modulation and throughput.
>>> With low SNR, I think it’s kind of like arguing Ferrari vs Porsche for off
>>> road racing, neither will be able to show off its capabilities.  Receiver
>>> sensitivity and bits/sec/Hz won’t matter.
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* CBB - Jay Fuller <[email protected]>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 3:28 PM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
>>>
>>>
>>> Also interested in interference rejection of the pmp450  - is there any
>>> (in 2.4)
>>> we are getting better foliage penetration with ubnt 2.4 than epmp 2.4 -
>>> - and from the performance of
>>> the epmp 2.4 i wish wish wish it penetrated better!
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* Matt <[email protected]>
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 02, 2016 2:25 PM
>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] PMP450 vs. ePMP
>>>
>>> We have mostly PMP100 and PMP450 deployed.  Some Ubiquiti we tried and
>>> some we inherited as well.  Have some ePMP we have tested but so far
>>> have not deployed more then couple test links.
>>>
>>> For those who have tried both ePMP and PMP450 what are the differences
>>> you have seen in performance?  Interference tolerance among others?
>>>
>>> For those that have gone with PMP450 over ePMP what was the reasoning?
>>>
>>>
>>
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